Spike in unopened

[Flintboy]

Just saw where a 77 baseball wax box just went for 8k on eBay. Noticed the big spike in mid 80’s as well. This reminds me of the “buyer’s group” a few years back. Same concept but instead of targeted vintage rookies just plugging in early 80’s unopened. Paying 8k for a 77 wax box does not add up to me...

[Orioles1954]

Even "junk" wax from the late 80s is going up in value.

[Jim65]

People are chasing the grade, hoping theres a few 10's in those boxes..

[rjackson44]

Prizm select basically any case insane prices,soccer pokemon i mean whats next ,,omg.non sport vintage crazy prices on wax ,,market is healthy.

[Oscar_Stanage]

there is very little chance to get your money's worth buying unopened.
They are extremely overpriced. Pack fresh cards from the 70s/early 80s are typically 6s, 7s at best.

[puckpaul]

Originally Posted by Wid_Conroy

there is very little chance to get your money's worth buying unopened.
They are extremely overpriced. Pack fresh cards from the 70s/early 80s are typically 6s, 7s at best.

Except supply is only going down over time.... not a bad investment at the right price

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by Wid_Conroy

there is very little chance to get your money's worth buying unopened.
They are extremely overpriced. Pack fresh cards from the 70s/early 80s are typically 6s, 7s at best.

Well, the 9s and 10s are coming from somewhere.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

Even "junk" wax from the late 80s is going up in value.

To that point: boxes of 1987 Topps are now $40+ with cases going for $800+.

[ocjack]

A little variance from the topic.

I watched a youtube video of someone breaking open a sealed box of 1972 wax (if I recall correctly) that he purchased. It was BBCE sealed but I don't know if that was the seller. Apparently, he sold the individual wax packs and was announcing the purchaser of each pack prior to opening them, on his video.

After opening the first several packs, it appeared that the gum had caused the last 3-4 cards in each pack to become stuck to each other and causing rips as he attempted to separate them. The guy announced that he was not going to open any more packs and intended to contact the seller of the wax box for a refund or substantial discount.

Is this a thing? If you purchase an unopened box isn't the only guarantee that the box was unopened. I don't see how there can be any guarantee as to the condition or viability of the enclosed packs.

Am I missing something?

[ALR-bishop]

I felt the need to have at least one unopened pack for each of my Topps set 51 to 2020. Only a wrapper for 48. Most of the older ones would sell for much more than the value of the cards inside. The mystery of what might be in them in greater than the value of what is actually in them

[hockeyhockey]

opening cards is fun. thankfully you can buy a box of 1989 donruss for like $15 and it provides a ton of entertainment.

[drcy]

That's half of the deal with unopened. You don't know what's inside. If you knew, and knew the conditions, what would be the point?

There was a big debate on that, and most felt that, unless it turned out to be not-unopened, he wasn't deserving of a refund. But BBCE refunded anyway, I'm sure for PR.

Originally Posted by ocjack

A little variance from the topic.

I watched a youtube video of someone breaking open a sealed box of 1972 wax (if I recall correctly) that he purchased. It was BBCE sealed but I don't know if that was the seller. Apparently, he sold the individual wax packs and was announcing the purchaser of each pack prior to opening them, on his video.

After opening the first several packs, it appeared that the gum had caused the last 3-4 cards in each pack to become stuck to each other and causing rips as he attempted to separate them. The guy announced that he was not going to open any more packs and intended to contact the seller of the wax box for a refund or substantial discount.

Is this a thing? If you purchase an unopened box isn't the only guarantee that the box was unopened. I don't see how there can be any guarantee as to the condition or viability of the enclosed packs.

Am I missing something?

[cardsagain74]

Originally Posted by drcy

That's half of the deal with unopened. You don't know what's inside. If you knew, and knew the conditions, what would be the point?

There was a big debate on that, and most felt that, unless it turned out to be not-unopened, he wasn't deserving of a refund. But BBCE refunded anyway, I'm sure for PR.

Are you referring to the '72 OPC baseball box that just happened last week, or the '79 T baseball box from awhile back that had all cards from sheet C?

I remember he got to buy another '79 T box from BBCE for half price (even though that wasn't their fault either). Both situations were clearly not a spot where the seller should bear any responsibility for what happened.

But then, the guy who runs that channel isn't exactly a beacon of solid ethics. So it's not surprising that he went after refunds in both spots.

[BRoberts]

Originally Posted by Flintboy

Just saw where a 77 baseball wax box just went for 8k on eBay. Noticed the big spike in mid 80’s as well. This reminds me of the “buyer’s group” a few years back. Same concept but instead of targeted vintage rookies just plugging in early 80’s unopened. Paying 8k for a 77 wax box does not add up to me...

REA has four 1977 Topps baseball wax boxes from a sealed case that currently are at $7,500, $7500, $7,800 and $7,800! Maybe that $8K figure isn't so crazy?

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by BRoberts

REA has four 1977 Topps baseball wax boxes from a sealed case that currently are at $7,500, $7500, $7,800 and $7,800! Maybe that $8K figure isn't so crazy?

So a case of 77's or a T206 Cobb green portrait?

I know what line I'll be standing in, and it won't be the one to get a chance at a gem mint Mark Fidrych...

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by BRoberts

REA has four 1977 Topps baseball wax boxes from a sealed case that currently are at $7,500, $7500, $7,800 and $7,800! Maybe that $8K figure isn't so crazy?

I was shocked when I saw the bids on those boxes in REA. My jaw dropped. What the hell man? For a 77 Topps box? Really?

[BRoberts]

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

I was shocked when I saw the bids on those boxes in REA. My jaw dropped. What the hell man? For a 77 Topps box? Really?

I agree. Very strong prices. Interesting that having four of the same box in one auction hasn't negatively impacted the bidding.

[glynparson]

Encase you have had your head up your arse the last 6 months just about every freaking thing has spiked.

[packs]

It's hard to get a read on this board. Now that everything is expensive and your collection is worth more than ever before, there is thread after thread about a bubble and what's real and what's not and all this bickering about where prices will be.....and this is at a time when your collection is worth the most.

Every year in between there is the dread thread where everyone laments how prices have crashed and what's real and what's not and all the bickering about where prices will be.

When will you guys enjoy something?