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Old 11-06-2020, 08:17 AM
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Default Most of this Seller's high dollar raw cards are Fakes. Please be careful.

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Old 11-06-2020, 08:18 AM
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Also he sold this Cobb card already to a zero feedback buyer that is 100% just for his stuff which may have well been the seller himself.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1922-E121-T...p2047675.l2557
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Old 11-06-2020, 08:20 AM
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I bought this strip card that I needed to complete my set and it was an obvious fake. you could feel the smooth shiny paper and when the name area was looped you could see the dot pattern. It was an obvious fake but the seller did refund me without any problems.

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Old 11-06-2020, 11:35 AM
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I emailed this guy about some other fakes he was selling. He informed me that I am a pathetic loser with a horrible life...and continued to sell his fakes.
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Old 11-06-2020, 01:10 PM
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Did you say, "Well, yeah. But what does one have to do with the other?"?

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Old 11-06-2020, 01:36 PM
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ya...most of his cards have a weird looking corner? he "sold" a rare ruth strip that looks pretty good...now it's right back for sale again.
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Old 11-06-2020, 02:27 PM
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I'm glad this was posted. I was watching that e121 Cobb last week and thought the "aging" looked suspicious. I was concerned for the buyer that paid $1000+ for it. I'm also not positive that particular front pose can have a "series of 80" back....I know it can have a 120 back for sure, but not sure of the 80 (some e121 experts can probably confirm).

Now that it's up for sale again due to "non-payment" I also assume this guy's plan is to shill bid his own stuff, and then if he actually wins his own item, then resell claiming no payment. I also stumbled upon a Ruth strip card that appeared to be relisted by the same guy claiming no payment.

I'm definitely avoiding his auctions.
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Old 11-06-2020, 05:44 PM
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I'm glad this was posted. I was watching that e121 Cobb last week and thought the "aging" looked suspicious. I was concerned for the buyer that paid $1000+ for it. I'm also not positive that particular front pose can have a "series of 80" back....I know it can have a 120 back for sure, but not sure of the 80 (some e121 experts can probably confirm).

Now that it's up for sale again due to "non-payment" I also assume this guy's plan is to shill bid his own stuff, and then if he actually wins his own item, then resell claiming no payment. I also stumbled upon a Ruth strip card that appeared to be relisted by the same guy claiming no payment.

I'm definitely avoiding his auctions.
That pose is available in the Series of 80, its called Ty Cobb facing front, the other two Cobb cards in the set are the same image called Ty Cobb facing right. The only difference is one bottom has "Manager" spelled out, the other says "Mgr." The "Manager" is more rare.
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Old 11-06-2020, 02:31 PM
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Did you say, "Well, yeah. But what does one have to do with the other?"?
I mean...I collect baseball cards...no new information here.
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Old 11-06-2020, 02:39 PM
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Its always a dead giveaway when the same seller is offering PSA graded commons and tier 3 HOFers and raw tier 1 HOFers at the same time.
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Old 11-07-2020, 03:04 AM
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I emailed this guy about some other fakes he was selling. He informed me that I am a pathetic loser with a horrible life...and continued to sell his fakes.

I didn't know you had a "Horrible Life"

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Old 11-07-2020, 03:33 AM
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Reported this scammer
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Old 11-07-2020, 07:36 AM
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I expected something completely different in the opening post.
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Old 11-12-2020, 01:31 PM
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Default Most of this Seller's high dollar raw cards are Fakes. Please be careful.

Hard to imagine someone bidding on Goudey Ruths and prewar Cobbs would actually fall for this? All the typical scammer signs are there. And some of those fakes are blatantly obvious, like the 49 Paige.

It must happen enough (without returns) to make it “worth it” for this guy.

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Old 11-12-2020, 01:59 PM
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I reported a card to eBay several days before it ended. Was never pulled.
It sold twice, first buyer returned or didn’t pay.
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Old 11-12-2020, 02:25 PM
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I remember when you could buy raw cards on eBay with no issue. I think people would be surprised what you could buy if they are newer to the hobby. even as late as 1999-2004 ish I still would find incredible deals on ebay of raw pre war cards. I Purchased a 1916 Ruth standard biscuit and Joe Jax Raw on ebay and it graded fine with SGC.. Probably was around 2002.. Those days are long gone.. RIP.

Unless its a set filler common I don’t trust anything raw on ebay. The seller and his feedback/time on ebay is the dead giveaway..
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I remember when you could buy raw cards on eBay with no issue. I think people would be surprised what you could buy if they are newer to the hobby. even as late as 1999-2004 ish I still would find incredible deals on ebay of raw pre war cards. I Purchased a 1916 Ruth standard biscuit and Joe Jax Raw on ebay and it graded fine with SGC.. Probably was around 2002.. Those days are long gone.. RIP.

Unless its a set filler common I don’t trust anything raw on ebay. The seller and his feedback/time on ebay is the dead giveaway..
Couldn't agree more Conner. I just posted on a different Ebay scammer thread that I no longer consider ebay a viable place to buy cards and it has become the wild west/dark web

And did you say Standard Biscuit Ruth??!! Sorry, I couldn't help myself (although this is not your SGC one). Especially after our text exchange today about M101-4 vs M101-5
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Old 11-12-2020, 06:47 PM
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Couldn't agree more Conner. I just posted on a different Ebay scammer thread that I no longer consider ebay a viable place to buy cards and it has become the wild west/dark web

And did you say Standard Biscuit Ruth??!! Sorry, I couldn't help myself (although this is not your SGC one). Especially after our text exchange today about M101-4 vs M101-5
Ry- You can buy on ebay just check into the seller and make sure its graded. Definitely some land mines and schemers to avoid, but some of my best deals historically have been on ebay. Even the last couple of years. I will say you can tell the shilling and fraud is getting worse and worse every year, so for what you collect I get not even touching ebay. Jay has posted it before so I am not outing him, but he is the one that ended up with my SB SGC 3 Ruth.

Your very cruel for posting your SB. Funny side note if you search flea bay- for what ever reason some guy decided to copy your specific SB as one of the most common fakes listed online. It’s bizarre!
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