1948/49 Leaf Paper Stock

[samosa4u]

Somebody on the football forum was mentioning how Leaf Gum Co. used two different kinds of paper stock to make their 48' football set - white and gray. I think they used white paper first, but then ran out and had to switch to the lower-quality gray paper, but I might be wrong about this. Anyhow, after reading about this, I wondered if the same had happened to the baseball set as well. I started by focusing on the Jackies and it looks like it did. Let's look at the first card below:



This appears to have been printed on white paper stock. The borders and lettering look very white, but also, you'll notice how much vibrant the colors are. This card looks fantastic!

Now let's look at the other one below:



There is such a huge difference between this one and the one above it. You can right away tell that the paper stock is of much lower quality; hence why many of these ones can be found with serious toning issues. Furthermore, the colors are just dull. This "gray version," if that's the correct way to describe it, is more commonly found than the "white version." In my opinion, it should be worth less than the white version, but I don't think collectors really care about the paper stock or do they?

Give me your thoughts on this subject. Have you noticed this with the other cards from this set? Do you disagree with anything I wrote?

Thanks for reading

[G1911]

These are not white and grey stocks. Perhaps there is a tiny difference in the stocks (though it sure looks like standard Leaf color difference in the printing to me, not the stock), but this is nothing like the white vs. grey stock.

Take a white stock and a grey stock boxing Leaf for example, and compare the massive difference and completely different color to any of the baseball cards.

[Exhibitman]

w/r/t the boxing set the white stock was first. I say this because every single Graziano I've ever seen in person (and I've seen most of the known examples in person) has been on white stock.

[samosa4u]

Adam, can you post some gray vs. white Leaf boxing cards? I want to see how different they look from each other.

One big problem I encounter frequently is that sellers like to juice up their scans. This only makes things more difficult for me.

[samosa4u]

Here is an example of what I'm talking about:

https://sports.ha.com/itm/hockey/195...umbnail-071515

I have owned so many Bobby Hull rookies in my life and I currently have four or five examples in my possession. When I saw this card, I started laughing! Shame on you, Heritage!

[tedzan]

The 1948 LEAF Boxing set was issued in the Fall of 1948. I remember collecting these boxing cards back then. But I don't expect some of you
to take my word for this timeline.
Anyhow, the Tony Zale bio confirms my date line. His fight vs. Marcel Cerdan (Sept 21, 1948) in which he lost is noted on the back of his card.

Adam W. is correct, the WHITE cardboard stock was first. This was true also for LEAF's Football set in 1948. In 1949, LEAF switched to printing
their Sportscards on GRAY cardboard stock. The 1949 LEAF Baseball and Football sets are printed ONLY on GRAY cardboard stock.

Furthermore, the 1948 LEAF Boxing and Football cards were so popular, that LEAF continued printing them till the Spring of 1949. Resulting in
these two sets having been printed on both WHITE and GRAY cardboard.

Check-out the two Zale cards in my scan. Note the difference the brightness of the WHITE cardboard version vs. the Gray cardboard one. This
is true for all 49 cards in this Boxing set.






TED Z

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