Pays to buy graded

[pete zouras]

I won an old judge card on ebay that was ungraded that was on such thin paper stock that sunlight could be see to shine through when held up to it. This was not disclosed in the listing and there are others going up in the next few days I would ask about before bidding. I have reached out to the seller informing him of my plans to return. Buyer beware when buying raw.

[2dueces]

It was probably skinned. He either doesn’t know better or hoped you didn’t know better.

[judsonhamlin]

Are these the listings out of Georgia?

[pete zouras]

Yes sir.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by pete zouras

I won an old judge card on ebay that was ungraded that was on such thin paper stock that sunlight could be see to shine through when held up to it. This was not disclosed in the listing and there are others going up in the next few days I would ask about before bidding. I have reached out to the seller informing him of my plans to return. Buyer beware when buying raw.

Pete, Do you have any pics of the cards? Would love to see them. Did you return just based on thickness or was there other things that compounded to that being the point of return?

[pete zouras]

I do have pictures but the upload failed. There is no other issue than thickness. The front is nice enough that I accepted a generous partial refund and we both moved on.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by pete zouras

I do have pictures but the upload failed. There is no other issue than thickness. The front is nice enough that I accepted a generous partial refund and we both moved on.

Happy to hear that you got it worked out. I am more interested in the alteration of the card and what it looks like. Would you be able to email or pm me pics? Thank you.

[Miked1979]

Which OJ card was it? I asked that seller if his N28 Cap Anson was original or a reprint, and he replied that it was original and from his father's collection who had a " good eye". I bid and won the N28 Anson.

[teza11]

This guy has sold enough baseball tobacco cards to be familiar thickness. I see that he has now added a side pic to some of his listings. Where it's not shown...buyer beware. I'm also troubled by a few of his cards. Take a look at this N28 Ward card. The front looks like your everyday reprint. The backside looks legit. Possible re-backing? For the record I don;t know this seller and have never bought any of his cards, so purely my speculation.

Jeff

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by pete zouras

Buyer beware when buying raw.

And, if you are a person who bought one of the hundreds (thousands?) of cards discovered to be altered but graded, then buyer beware when buying the opinion of those that sell them.

Buyer beware.
Buy the card not the slab.
There's a sucker born every minute.

I believe that each term should be among the thought processes of ALL buyers.

Doug

[RCMcKenzie]

Based on the prices, people thought they were good. When I sell graded cards on eBay, they go for 50% of retail and dealers scoop them up and re-list them and get full price. Luckily there are plenty of other cards for me to buy. Rob