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Old 03-27-2020, 08:49 AM
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Default Just a Note Saying Goodbye to Legible Autographs:

Behold - two team-signed balls:

one from the 1960s Giants and the other much more recent - also from the SF Giants

SF Giants Team-Signed Ball 1960s.jpgSF Giants Team-Signed Ball Modern.jpg
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What country is the second one from? Looks like chicken scratches or a foreign language.
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What country is the second one from? Looks like chicken scratches or a foreign language.
oops! I added that detail...as unbelievable as it is.



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I understand people today writing illegible signatures, but for athletes/celebrities writing "autographs", there's just no reason to be so careless. And it shows how little they actually "care" about their fans.

It's a real shame.
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Cursive is on it's way out and from the perspective of signatures, a damn shame. Anywhere else, I say good riddance. Trying to read some peoples hand writing in letters back in the day was a nightmare.
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So, if cursive is on the way out, does that make legible vintage autographs more desirable or in time will they go the way of 8 track tapes?
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I understand people today writing illegible signatures, but for athletes/celebrities writing "autographs", there's just no reason to be so careless. And it shows how little they actually "care" about their fans.

It's a real shame.
One of my bosses has two different signatures. One for business & personal stuff that is completely illegible (it would look great on that modern Giants ball, and nobody would be the wiser), and another for when he signs "autographs" which is quite legible, and because of that would stick out like a sore thumb on that 1960s Giants ball.
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My two cents, not worth much but I think there are three main reasons the trend to illegibility...

1) As has been stated in previous posts, penmanship, cursive, heck writing is no longer taught in most schools. With the advent of keyboard input and texting, the need to write for most younger folks is less and less, so there is no "practice". I think even the practice of drafting, where one learned to pen perfect block letters, has been supplanted by CAD computer software.

2) In the 1990s I discussed autographs with an athlete friend of mine and he surprised me with the comment that agents were advising against signing autographs for fear of identity theft and that if they did want to sign autographs that they should develop a "mark" that was different than their signature on legal documents.

3) This is conjecture on my part, but with the rise of eBay the numbers of people seeking autographs has risen (opportunists thinking they can profit from the autographs AND/OR the perception that an autograph has some intrisinc $$$ value), and those players who do want to sign autographs have to shorten the time it takes to sign as much as they can. One can see how a player in the minors may have a semi-decent autograph but as the years go by it gets worse and worse.

In today's society, when meeting someone famous, selfies have replaced the autograph so it will be interesting to see how "social distancing" affects this in the coming years. I imagine that access to famous people will get even harder now.
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