OT: Two out of Three eBayers ...

[samosa4u]

... will overcharge me on the shipping fees. Almost every week I have to try to get some money back from these m****f***** and it's really annoying!

I get overcharged by $7, $14 and sometimes $20!

Majority usually just give me back the difference, but then there is a small percentage of f****** that fight back! They say things like:

- I had to pay for the bubble mailer

- Gas money

- Paypal and eBay fees

- My time

- If you are happy with the item(s), then what's the problem?

- I could have charged you individual shipping as per individual listing - but I did not.

The list goes on and on.

Most card dealers I know ship for free or they charge a very small amount. I only charge $5 even though I live in Canada. It usually ends up costing me more, but the rest comes out of my pocket.

How do you guys deal with people like this?

[deadballera]

depending on item purchased - sellers will try to recoup some of the ebay/paypal fees with the shipping charges

the shipping charge is already shown prior to bidding.

again - depends on the item bidding on and the total amount of the projected sale.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

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How do you guys deal with people like this?

Am I wrong or are you continuing to deal with the same crappy sellers that keep doing this to you? Or, is it just happening with every 2 out of 3 random sellers that aren't the same ones each time?

It sounds like your continuing to buy from the same douche dealers. Maybe I'm misunderstanding though?

[Mike D.]

By overcharge, do you mean difference between price charged by seller and postage cost they paid to ship? Or something else?

I don’t think a seller should lose money on shipping, and paying for shipping supplies and a bit of fees seems reasonable...but charging $7-20 more than the raw postage fee clearly is a significant overcharge.

[Jay Wolt]

2 outta 3 is a heck of a %
There's a ton of sellers that offer Free shipping, I do as well

[samosa4u]

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

Or, is it just happening with every 2 out of 3 random sellers that aren't the same ones each time?

Yes

Originally Posted by Mike D.

By overcharge, do you mean difference between price charged by seller and postage cost they paid to ship?

Yes

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

2 outta 3 is a heck of a %

Yep, and it really is happening to me.

Originally Posted by buymycards

I see that you are from Canada. Are you complaining about sellers charging you more than the actual cost to ship to Canada?

This happens too. Some American sellers would charge me $20 or $25 and then send it by First Class for much less. I always had to get some money back from them.

Originally Posted by whiteymet

Just got cards sent in a plain envelope with one 55 cent stamp. Was charged $3.00 as per the listing!

I don't care if they send it to me for $3 but not just one stamp. Overcharged by $2.45

This just happened to me a few days ago. I bought a hockey card from Vancouver and the guy charged me $5 US and then sent it in a plain envelope with a dollar-something stamp. I had him send me some money back.

Originally Posted by Case12

For me, the seller can advertise whatever shipping fee they want. It's up to me, the buyer, to decide if I want to pay that on top of the price of the item. It's all clear on eBay page. It's really the buyers choice to buy. The seller is not being dishonest.

No. Sometimes I buy a bunch of things from one seller, and then he will hit me with an invoice with a higher shipping charge. In other words, it's not always clear on the eBay page.

[Buythatcard]

Shipping 1 graded card to Canada costs me between $10.50 to $12.50. In most cases I add insurance which can tack on another $1.00 to $2.00. So, total cost to ship can be from $10.50 to $14.50.

I charge $11.50 to ship to Canada (mentioned in each of my listings). Sometimes, I come out ahead for about a dollar but most times I end up shelling the difference out of my own pocket.

Most buyers do not complain but every so often a buyer comes along and complains that shipping is too high. I simply say that all shipping costs are laid out in my listings. When I explain the breakdown of the costs, they usually stop complaining. It's up to the buyer at this point to decide whether they want to continue bidding.

For buyers who complain about the high costs of shipping, just try selling on ebay for a few months and you will understand the costs of running a business.

[Snapolit1]

My favorite eBay sellers are guys who overcharge by a mile but give free shipping. Love those guys.

[guy3050]

I am from Canada, Most of my ebay buying comes from The States with Global shipping witch tends to be very expensive, if I really want the item I pay up with no complaints, if I feel its not worth it I just let it go and not buy, But I'll never complain after the facts and don't understand why anyone would.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

Yes



Yes



Yep, and it really is happening to me.



This happens too. Some American sellers would charge me $20 or $25 and then send it by First Class for much less. I always had to get some money back from them.



This just happened to me a few days ago. I bought a hockey card from Vancouver and the guy charged me $5 US and then sent it in a plain envelope with a dollar-something stamp. I had him send me some money back.



No. Sometimes I buy a bunch of things from one seller, and then he will hit me with an invoice with a higher shipping charge. In other words, it's not always clear on the eBay page.

I have a feeling that you are on a ton of blocked lists.

This is holding feedback hostage and demanding to renegotiate after you receive the item in every example.

If the shipping price was clearly stated there is nothing to complain about here.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by samosa4u

I get overcharged by $7, $14 and sometimes $20!

You mean they are somehow charging you more than what's specified in the listing for a shipping charge? No? Then you're not being overcharged.

[buymycards]

I see that you are from Canada. Are you complaining about sellers charging you more than the actual cost to ship to Canada?

It costs $12.25 to ship a small package to Canada. This covers up to 8 ounces. That 8 ounces includes the packaging material, so that can easily eat up 3-4 of your 8 ounces. There is a small discount (61 cents) for using eBay/PayPal to print the shipping label, but that is more than offset because eBay and PayPal both collect fees on the shipping costs.

If you have a heavier package, it costs $20.75 to ship up to 32 ounces. Again, there is a discount ($1.04) for using eBay/PayPal labels, but the seller still pays around $2.40 in fees to eBay and PayPal.

For cheap single cards, some sellers use a PWE, including me, but the rules that are in place do not allow for that. All merchandise entering Canada is required to be shipped using the parcel rates, even if it is one card.

There is also a rate for flats/large envelopes, but again, the rules prohibit sending merchandise by this method. So, you can ask the seller to send a photo or a similar item using the flats rate, but, because you cannot purchase tracking for a flat, sellers are reluctant to use this method.

Rick

[whiteymet]

Just got cards sent in a plain envelope with one 55 cent stamp. Was charged $3.00 as per the listing!

I don't care if they send it to me for $3 but not just one stamp. Overcharged by $2.45

[buymycards]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

Just got cards sent in a plain envelope with one 55 cent stamp. Was charged $3.00 as per the listing!

I don't care if they send it to me for $3 but not just one stamp. Overcharged by $2.45

I agree with you on that kind of situation.

[sbfinley]

A) I’ve always factored the cost of shipping listed into a purchase I’ve made regardless of the item.

B) I’ve always used free shipping and just factored the cost of shipping into my pricing. For auctions (I really don’t run that many) I just add $3.

Originally Posted by whiteymet

Just got cards sent in a plain envelope with one 55 cent stamp. Was charged $3.00 as per the listing!

I don't care if they send it to me for $3 but not just one stamp. Overcharged by $2.45

This is different though and I can honestly say that’s never happened. Well... actually I once received a BVG graded Delong card wrapped in brown paper (imagine an old textbook cover) like a present with my address written on the outside. Just the card and the paper. It said “enjoy!”, however on the paper so I couldn’t even be mad. I’ll even add it packages of my own once in a blue moon.

[lowpopper]

I do free shipping. Buy from me

[buymycards]

Originally Posted by lowpopper

I do free shipping. Buy from me

The OP who is complaining is from Canada. Do you ship to Canada for free?

[todeen]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

Just got cards sent in a plain envelope with one 55 cent stamp. Was charged $3.00 as per the listing!

I don't care if they send it to me for $3 but not just one stamp. Overcharged by $2.45

+1 agree - this drives me bonkers!

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

Just got cards sent in a plain envelope with one 55 cent stamp. Was charged $3.00 as per the listing!

I don't care if they send it to me for $3 but not just one stamp. Overcharged by $2.45

I would have to disagree. There is a cost for the packaging, time to package the item and time to take it to the post office. Those all have value. It is not a 'postage charge', it is shipping and handling fee. Every seller I look at has it in their listings. I take that into account. Additionally, I have never had a seller who did not combine postage on multiple items. If I had an item I was shipping in a #10 business envelope and it cost less than a dollar I would probably not charge $3.00, but I would also not charge 55¢ either. It is fine to say that you do not charge for shipping. Ebay rewards sellers that do that. However, they are not selling an item for $7 that cost them $5. They would lose money all the time. I would suspect that many of them are pricing their items with a fair profit after fees and shipping costs.

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by Michael B

I would have to disagree. There is a cost for the packaging, time to package the item and time to take it to the post office. Those all have value. It is not a 'postage charge', it is shipping and handling fee. Every seller I look at has it in their listings. I take that into account. Additionally, I have never had a seller who did not combine postage on multiple items. If I had an item I was shipping in a #10 business envelope and it cost less than a dollar I would probably not charge $3.00, but I would also not charge 55¢ either. It is fine to say that you do not charge for shipping. Ebay rewards sellers that do that. However, they are not selling an item for $7 that cost them $5. They would lose money all the time. I would suspect that many of them are pricing their items with a fair profit after fees and shipping costs.

In this scenario it's less about the cost of someone's shipping, time, and materials than about their lack of care. I buy hundreds of signed cards at SCN to round out sets and have no problem with PWE's if it's announced up front. I'm not buying the condition, I'm buying the signed card. It's honestly fair however, to expect anything over a $2 shipping charge to include at least a bubble mailer. If it's worth it a seller to charge $5-$6 for a single cheaper card for "their time and materials" sure - if I really want it I'll pay for it and have. But if you charge more than $2 for shipping and then out a PWE that's just cheap and lazy. If you are on eBay you're also going to open yourself up to dishonest people saying they never received the item.

[toledo_mudhen]

Asa seller I do free shipping and just calculate a modest shipping cost into the BIN or Starting bid price - this is for US Addresses only tho. Normally as a buyer I also tend to look for sellers with Free Shipping. I can see how there would be all kinds of discrepancy for items that need to go to Canada.

[timn1]

Most auction houses do the same thing - but I agree with other posters, shipping and handling are real costs for businesses. As long as they're upfront about the charges, I don't see the problem. You don't have to buy from them if it's excessive to you.

Originally Posted by Tabe

You mean they are somehow charging you more than what's specified in the listing for a shipping charge? No? Then you're not being overcharged.

[forceplay sport]

several things I consider when dealing with Ebay. One is of course feedback rating and the other is description and shipping fees, if I dont feel comfortable about these things I dont bother with them, no matter how bad I want (or need) the item. I suppose you could ask the seller about this before bidding or buying. Just my 2 cents .