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Old 02-29-2020, 09:37 AM
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Default Burdick Award finalists

Where is Bob Lemke, Lew Lipset etc. I was only familiar with 3 of the 5 names and I've been collecting since 1958 and been a dealer since 1978.

https://sabrbaseballcards.blog/2020/...ard-finalists/
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The finalists should be no surprise. The HOF has a special expertise for getting it wrong.
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Nominations this first year were limited to living persons, meaning Bob Lemke would not have been eligible. Perhaps that's a criterion that will change in the future. Were the Committee to consider deceased contributors, I have to imagine Jefferson Burdick himself would have been the winner, seeing as he is the award's namesake.

With luck, our Baseball Cards Research Committee will continue this award many years into the future and be able to add to the list of winners. However, we are thrilled to have Mike Aronstein as our inaugural recipient and would happily put his qualifications "mano a mano" up against anyone's past or present.
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Why would the nominees be limited to living persons? That criterion eliminates worthy candidates. I would think that the earliest card researchers and cataloguers would have priority. The HOF did the same thing with 19th century players. Many of the pioneers of the game were not seriously researched and considered, while more "modern" candidates were elected. I just believe the pioneers should be considered first or they run the risk of being pushed aside and forgotten. The HOF doesn't like dead inductees. It makes for a smaller party. Reference the 2013 election. I realize we may be talking apples and oranges here, however I am partial to taking care of the pioneers first. Also, I realize this is a SABR project, not a HOF award. My previous post expressed my dissatisfaction with the HOF. Sometimes I need to vent.

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Why would the nominees be limited to living persons? That criterion eliminates worthy candidates. I would think that the earliest card researchers and cataloguers would have priority. The HOF did the same thing with 19th century players. Many of the pioneers of the game were not seriously researched and considered, while more "modern" candidates were elected. I just believe the pioneers should be considered first or they run the risk of being pushed aside and forgotten. The HOF doesn't like dead inductees. It makes for a smaller party. Reference the 2013 election. I realize we may be talking apples and oranges here, however I am partial to taking care of the pioneers first. Also, I realize this is a SABR project, not a HOF award. My previous post expressed my dissatisfaction with the HOF. Sometimes I need to vent.
Most SABR award winners have been for living people. As a person who has been a member of SABR for most of the past 35 years I understand the logic of keeping this award to the same principle as the other SABR awards.

Maybe in this case there can be a founders/developers category just as there should be a founders category for some of the original researchers.

Then people such as Woody Gelman, Frank Nagy, Bob Lemke etc. can be honored as well as the living.

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Then people such as Woody Gelman, Frank Nagy, Bob Lemke etc. can be honored as well as the living.



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That’s a great suggestion, Rich, and one I’ll take back to the committee. BTW, don’t forget Sy Berger!
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