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Old 08-30-2019, 03:59 AM
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Default Shanus v. R.L. Americana, Lifson, Robert Edwards Auctions, et al.

My apologies if this has already been discussed, posted, etc. But I came this on a blog I regularly visit.

"Before the Court is Defendants Robert Lifson and Robert Edward Auctions' (collectively "REA") motion to seal and redact portions of the trial transcript and exhibits. REA argues that they have a strong interest in redacting and sealing portions of the transcript because they reference confidential business dealings, contracts, and settlements relating to customers who were not parties to this action.

After a five day trial, the jury found that REA, with the assistance of nonparties Peter Nash and his business, Cooperstown Monument Company ("Cooperstown"), fraudulently manipulated the market through a deceptive bidding and purchase scheme. Plaintiff Corey R. Shanus contends that this motion is nothing more than an attempt to conceal evidence of REA's fraud from the public…."

Interesting to say the least. And the motion was denied.

https://reason.com/2019/08/29/no-sea...-a-civil-case/
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Old 08-30-2019, 06:43 AM
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Nothing is surprising anymore!
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Old 08-30-2019, 09:41 AM
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Wow! This could be interesting.
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Old 08-30-2019, 09:55 AM
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You guys are so all negative. Hobby used to be fun. Makes me sick to my stomach.

I only buy raw cards from itinerant street peddlers, so none of this third party grading or auction house stuff means anything to me.
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Old 08-30-2019, 10:18 AM
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Is this the reason why the FBI named Lifson as a shill in a previous case?Isnt Rob Lifson suppose to be the "squeegee-clean" hobby guy?
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In case you are too busy to scroll cursor over and click the link, here is a portion of the blog post...feel free to read the whole thing by clicking the link.

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For example, REA wishes to seal sections of the April 30th and May 1st transcripts that describe Mr. Lifson's relationship with Mr. Nash and outline their scheme. The disputed transcripts explain how Mr. Nash consigned items that he owned for sale in REA auctions. After placing his items in the auctions, Mr. Nash bid on some of those very same items as Cooperstown, an entity that he completely controlled.

Mr. Nash then extended credit to Cooperstown for the cost of the successful bids, therefore preventing any money from actually changing hands between Mr. Nash and Cooperstown. Essentially, Mr. Nash would loan Cooperstown, an entity under his control, money to pay himself for Cooperstown's purchases of his own memorabilia.

Mr. Lifson, as the auction representative, would normally receive a buyer's commission and fees from items sold in REA auctions. However, Mr. Nash would not pay the full fees, accruing debt with REA. Instead, Mr. Lifson had an agreement with Mr. Nash that the items Cooperstown purchased would be held as collateral for Mr. Nash's debt, but it is unclear whether Mr. Lifson ever intended on collecting this debt.

Mr. Lifson would then report these sales on his website, but REA never actually removed these items from their inventory, until offering them for sale at some point in the future. Because successful sales potentially increase the value of items, Mr. Lifson and Mr. Nash's scheme would artificially inflate the prices of items that they intended to sell in future auctions.

For the above reasons, the materials that REA seeks to seal are directly relevant to the heart of this case, meaning that the basis for the judgment rests upon the disputed transcripts and exhibits. If the Court sealed the disputed materials, it would essentially conceal the very mechanism that REA used to perpetuate the scheme, leaving the public with little more than the judgment itself to establish the existence of the scheme. Consequently, the Court finds that the public interest in disclosure outweighs any private interest to seal….
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Old 08-30-2019, 10:35 AM
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Imagine if this was about Ken Goldin. Sheesh. This would likely be post 1,450.

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Squeaky clean baseball card dealer?

The hobby is oxymoronic.

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Old 08-30-2019, 10:59 AM
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If you google different combinations of the individuals involved seems like a lot of this goes back over 10 years.
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Imagine if this was about Ken Goldin. Sheesh. This would likely be post 1,450.
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