PWCC and Doctored Cards

[tod41]

I left a message on the PSA forum that was immediately deleted. PWCC is currently selling a PSA 10 1972 Pro Star Tim Foli card. This card was originally sold by Four Sharp Corners and had obvious bubbling defects which put a 10 grade into serious question. The card sat for a couple of years. Now the card comes back better than ever in the PWCC auction. There is no question that either the card was switched or the bubbling was altered.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Possibly just hidden by the scan. If it's the same cert number the holder hasn't been opened, no?

[tod41]

The card is not even placed in the holder the same way if you look at the top.

[Peter_Spaeth]

If it's the same cert, it hasn't been opened, nobody is going to crack out a 10 to make a nicer 10.

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by tod41

The card is not even placed in the holder the same way if you look at the top.

Cards move around in holders.

[Dpeck100]

Years ago there loads of posts about PWCC doctoring scans. Perhaps a scan issue?

I can't see how the cert would be the same and the card is in the newer holder too.

Very odd.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

Years ago there loads of posts about PWCC doctoring scans. Perhaps a scan issue?

I can't see how the cert would be the same and the card is in the newer holder too.

Very odd.

It's the scan. Sometimes stuff doesn't show up depending on the settings. Old Judge showed a Goudey Ruth where the wrinkles were obscured. Not necessarily intentional.

[lowpopper]

This is the saddest claim so far. It's the same holder.


Maybe it was gremlins in the scanner. I told you not to feed it after midnight.

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's the scan. Sometimes stuff doesn't show up depending on the settings. Old Judge showed a Goudey Ruth where the wrinkles were obscured. Not necessarily intentional.

Could have just been random chance that the PWCC image obscured the wrinkles.