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Old 05-28-2019, 11:16 AM
scottzoe scottzoe is offline
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Default 1936 R313/R314 Fine Pen/Wide Pen confusion?

Hi all,
I'm trying to determine if there is a 1936 R313 Fine Pen version of the Ben Chapman/Bill Werber card. According to Beckett there is one. The Standard
Catalog, Trading Card DB and Old Cardboard checklists don't show one. I tend to believe The Standard Catalog over Beckett, but browsing the Burdick collection at the Met they have one listed. https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/705655

Is the one in the Met collection really a fine pen or the borderless wide pen version?

Thanks in advance for any help,

Scott
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Old 05-28-2019, 02:38 PM
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Default definitely not

in R313.

the Chapman/Werber pose appears in the main R314 set, and also in two others smaller R314 sets: the borderless set of 24, and the set that has borders but is otherwise identical to the borderless one.

The Met image is from this last one, the bordered/borderless one, which is quite difficult to find.

Tim

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Old 05-28-2019, 05:30 PM
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So, are the borderless what SGC considers “type 3”? And how do you identify the bordered r314 of 24 vs the main r314 set? Or, did you mean they are literally smaller?
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Old 05-28-2019, 06:07 PM
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..cards are all the same size ; same picture was used in the different types. Adding a thin border to the borderless 24 made for some unusual cropping.

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Old 05-28-2019, 06:15 PM
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..the regular set have that little "Litho In USA" down in the right corner.

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Old 05-28-2019, 06:25 PM
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Default Difficult To Find In Decent Condition :



psssst......Paying "strong" for upgrades , he added , unethically .

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