Calling BS on WAR

[Peter_Spaeth]

Yelich slash line -- 14/34/.353
DeJong slash line -- 5/13/.342

DeJong has a higher WAR.

[chaddurbin]

For a guy so anti-war you sure likes to keep track and bringing it up. I think you're secretly in love with it!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

For a guy so anti-war you sure likes to keep track and bringing it up. I think you're secretly in love with it!

Maybe DeJong is the new Trout, he gets points just for participation.

[nat]

The difference is all fielding. DeJong is a shortstop (and a good one). Yelich is a little bit above average in RF. (Also DeJong's batting is a little better than you made it seem, as he's leading the league in doubles.)

But perhaps more to the point: the difference is 0.1 WAR, which really doesn't signal anything. Heck, it could be a result of rounding. A (so far) great hitting shortstop is as valuable as a really great hitting outfielder. That's totally believable.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by nat

The difference is all fielding. DeJong is a shortstop (and a good one). Yelich is a little bit above average in RF. (Also DeJong's batting is a little better than you made it seem, as he's leading the league in doubles.)

But perhaps more to the point: the difference is 0.1 WAR, which really doesn't signal anything. Heck, it could be a result of rounding. A (so far) great hitting shortstop is as valuable as a really great hitting outfielder. That's totally believable.

Call me old fashioned, but I'll take Yelich.

[999Tony]

You're old fashioned

WAR agrees that Yelich has been the better hitter this year, even with the position adjustment. According to baseball ref, Yelich worth 2.1 and DeJong 1.8 on hitting alone.

DeJong's 167 OPS+ year to date pretty impressive for a middle infielder, but Yelich has a 223 OPS+

The difference is defense --DeJong 0.6 WAR and Yelich 0.0.

Of course WAR doesn't predict future performance. Yelich is still almost certain to end up with a higher WAR for the year than DeJong.

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Call me old fashioned, but I'll take Yelich.

+1 and however many zero's you want to add.

I look at the basic stats and percentages, but in no way is DeJong more valuable than Yelich. This shouldn't even be a discussion. However someone will keep spinning the stats to try and show otherwise.

[chaddurbin]

oh hey trout just woke up and put on his pants today, that adds another .02 to his war total. trout has tied or ahead of bellinger and yelich "unbelievable" years. trout's also on pace for his best war year if he doesn't get injured.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yelich slash line -- 14/34/.353
DeJong slash line -- 5/13/.342

DeJong has a higher WAR.

You are ignorant of the following WAR provision.

If you play in Milwaukee, your WAR is automatically divided by three.