Babe Ruth Donruss Cut Signature, authentic?

[NAH]

Hi All, I'm new to the forum and have a question for any Babe Ruth Auto collectors in the group. I'm considering making an offer on this Babe Ruth cut signature... should I be concerned about authenticity at all? I know it's certified by Donruss/Beckett but I would probably trust it more if it were Topps/PSA. Thoughts?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-Donrus...9xg:rk:79:pf:0

[Bpm0014]

Without even looking at it's authenticity, who in their right mind would pay anywhere near $12k for a Ruth cut signature? You could probably get a really nice cut for $5k...

[Klrdds]

Not meaning to be rude but you must really be itching to spend some money to even consider purchasing that cut and piece of manufactured memorabilia because you can find very nicely signed full checks , photos , and even some notes/ letters for far less than that price or BO for that IMO poor quality cut.
PS welcome to Net 54.

[Fred]

Just because it was issued in a holder by a major card distributor doesn't make it authentic. As was mentioned in this thread, you could find a nicer Ruth signature that has a greater chance of being authentic for much less money. However, if you like it that much and the money is burning a hole in your pocket, by all means, get it.

[Bpm0014]

Not to mention, I don't look at that autograph and feel with 100% certainty that it's good. I am by no means saying that it's not good, but I don't look at it and tell myself that it's 100% fine with no questions asked/or that I'm totally comfortable with it. I don't get that feeling right away. I'd honestly have to study it a little bit (and I can't right now because I'm busy at work haha).

[rjackson44]

Try posting in autograph section.they will help..price seems steep.

[egbeachley]

It’s a CUT-out autograph. That’s like a trimmed card. Stay away from cuts.

[Leon]

Have to agree with the take a step back comment. Just because something has a LOA or COA doesn't make it real. It just means they took your money for their opinion, right or wrong. Great business model.
LOAs/COAs only mean some person said they think it's real and many times they are wrong. (see T206 thread fake auto thread)
WE all know opinions are like ....well, you get the picture. Provenance of the autos should be the thing we concentrate on. The less a leap of faith the better.
..Good luck!!

Originally Posted by NAH

Hi All, I'm new to the forum and have a question for any Babe Ruth Auto collectors in the group. I'm considering making an offer on this Babe Ruth cut signature... should I be concerned about authenticity at all? I know it's certified by Donruss/Beckett but I would probably trust it more if it were Topps/PSA. Thoughts?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-Donrus...9xg:rk:79:pf:0

[perezfan]

The Babe signature isn't even fully visible, as it is obscured by the cut-out portion in at least 4 spots. Very poorly executed, IMHO. I would much prefer the example shown in post #17... especially at 35% of the selling price.

To me, these are "contrived" collectibles. I know others feel differently, but that's a heckuva lot of extra dough for an autograph that's not nearly as nice.

[Yastrzemski Sports]

[QUOTE=NAH;1840181]Hi All, I'm new to the forum and have a question for any Babe Ruth Auto collectors in the group. I'm considering making an offer on this Babe Ruth cut signature... should I be concerned about authenticity at all? I know it's certified by Donruss/Beckett but I would probably trust it more if it were Topps/PSA. Thoughts?

[url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-Donruss-Timelines-Call-To-The-Hall-Autograph-Platinum-Babe-Ruth-Auto-1-1/153299406091?hash=item23b15b4d0b:g:rzYAAOSwZNtcD9x g:rk:79:

I would like to echo the point about BGS vs BAS and you need to proceed with caution. This card is in an old BGS holder and was probably done several years ago. In the mid 2000s it was found that card companies were not having their cut autographs properly authenticated and some fakes were put into cards. This card has to be regraded by Beckett Authentication or PSA for the autograph authentication. It may be real but I wouldn’t be secure buying it.

Aside from that, Ruth autos from card companies have been selling in the 7500-16000 range so 12k obo is a fair price. Probably toward the lower end since it is not framed well with several parts of the autograph being cut off.

[mantlefan]

Speaking of feedback Jeff, I see that this seller usually deals in items under $10. He has a recent negative feedback (non-delivery) on another Ruth relic card at $10K, so I would tread lightly here.

[Bpm0014]

And the more I look at it, the more I'm uncomfortable with it. There are many "rushed" Ruth autographs out there (that still have the same basic characteristics as one in which he took his time). This just doesn't look right. Specifically the "ab". There's a chance it could be legit, but zero chance I would consider buying it.