Tony Podsada busted at National!

[earlywynnfan]

Saw his table, $30 mantles, $40 jordans. Guys buying stacks of shit. I'm trying to tell people they're forgeries, but nobody will listen. Just walked by again, the cops and security are boxing it all up and taking it Away!

[gregr2]

It will all be headed to eBay by the end of the week.

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by gregr2

It will all be headed to eBay by the end of the week.

If I read this correctly, it was seized by the police. Not very likely you will see it on ebay. The local incinerator is probably its future home.

[gregr2]

Originally Posted by Michael B

If I read this correctly, it was seized by the police. Not very likely you will see it on ebay. The local incinerator is probably its future home.

Hopefully that is the case, I was just going by his statement "Guys buying stacks of shit." that some of it may have already left the building.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Wonder if any other dealers don't show up tomorrow...

[Mr. Zipper]

Did he have the sign indicating the signed photos were "decorative items"?

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Saw his table, $30 mantles, $40 jordans. Guys buying stacks of shit. I'm trying to tell people they're forgeries, but nobody will listen. Just walked by again, the cops and security are boxing it all up and taking it Away!

Great post, Ken.

2016 at the National in Atlantic City, Tony Podsada was there.

Decorative" items. In other words, he threw his "authenticator" under the bus.

See below.



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[SetBuilder]

Owners of expensive paintings sometimes have exact replicas made to hang on their walls and then they keep the real one in a climate controlled vault somewhere. For security reasons.

Couldn't the same logic be extended to sports memorabilia? Prices are skyrocketing.

[Lordstan]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

Owners of expensive paintings sometimes have exact replicas made to hang on their walls and then they keep the real one in a climate controlled vault somewhere. For security reasons.

Couldn't the same logic be extended to sports memorabilia? Prices are skyrocketing.

Yes. Except that he is a very famous forger known for making things to sell as real.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

Owners of expensive paintings sometimes have exact replicas made to hang on their walls and then they keep the real one in a climate controlled vault somewhere. For security reasons.

Couldn't the same logic be extended to sports memorabilia? Prices are skyrocketing.

You can display fakes you just can't commit fraud.

[commishbob]

Not a good look for the hobby, the National or TriStar. Why do they lease him a table/booth? Yes, I'm sure the answer is $$$ but are they that desperate?

[SetBuilder]

I'm not trying to defend the crook, I'm just interested in the legal question.

According to Mr. Zipper, he had a sign in front of his booth stating that the $40 Jordan signatures were "decorative items."

You also have the fact that real Jordan autographs don't cost only $40.

I'm curious as to how law enforcement is going to prove that his buyers were deceived. To prove fraud, you have to prove that his buyers were misled by material misrepresentations.

Maybe I'm missing some important details?

[earlywynnfan]

He did NOT have "Decorative Items" anywhere, he was selling these as legit. I didn't actually talk to him (wasn't even aware that was who he was until Les Wolff told me.) But the forgeries were obvious even without the prices and volume of material.

This will always be the lasting memory of the 2018 National to me: I asked this customer next to me, who was buying a pile of items:
"Is he selling these as repros or something?"
No, they're real.
"He's selling Mantle 8x10 for $30 and you think they're real??"
I was wondering that too, but you've got to hear his stories, they're legit.
"No they're not, they're forgeries!!"
Do you think they'd actually let someone into the National who was selling forgeries?"

God Bless stupid people!!

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

I'm not trying to defend the crook, I'm just interested in the legal question.

According to Mr. Zipper, he had a sign in front of his booth stating that the $40 Jordan signatures were "decorative items."

You also have the fact that real Jordan autographs don't cost only $40.

I'm curious as to how law enforcement is going to prove that his buyers were deceived. To prove fraud, you have to prove that his buyers were misled by material misrepresentations.

Maybe I'm missing some important details?

https://live.autographmagazine.com/p...1155035&page=1

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

According to Mr. Zipper, he had a sign in front of his booth stating that the $40 Jordan signatures were "decorative items."

To clarify, he displayed the “decorative items” sign last year. I asked if he did the same this year.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

Owners of expensive paintings sometimes have exact replicas made to hang on their walls and then they keep the real one in a climate controlled vault somewhere. For security reasons.

Couldn't the same logic be extended to sports memorabilia? Prices are skyrocketing.

Are you out of your skull? because these are horrendous looking photos that no collector would want on their wall. I let mine fade or make a nice photo copy and store the original. These are shit fake signatures on shit photo paper media with a shit printer...=SHIT

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

Are you out of your skull? because these are horrendous looking photos that no collector would want on their wall. I let mine fade or make a nice photo copy and store the original. These are shit fake signatures on shit photo paper media with a shit printer...=SHIT

We should have an icon that you can click to generate the above response to some of the "Is this Mantle real?" threads.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Below is a screenshot from the Feedback page of Ebay seller Rbisportsinc.

He (Rod) was a major seller of the "Florida" forgeries. I posted numerous threads on him.

Read his reply to a Feedback left from a buyer.




rbisportsinc-Feedback-2.jpg

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Saw his table, $30 mantles, $40 jordans. Guys buying stacks of shit. I'm trying to tell people they're forgeries, but nobody will listen. Just walked by again, the cops and security are boxing it all up and taking it Away!

Finally, a real feel good story for 2018. He''s probably already out with the dot matrix printer & a new authentication company name. A true scum bag if ever there was one PERIOD. He has some pretty big balls to try and sell that well documented TRASH at the National. I hope he rots in prison or takes on a big fine that changes his pathetic little life.

[SetBuilder]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

I hope he rots in prison or takes on a big fine that changes his pathetic little life.

Prison seems unlikely if he was selling Ali signed plaques for $19.99.

Most jurisdictions have forgery laws, but they only apply to things like real estate deeds and bank checks. So if you forge grandma's signature on a quit claim deed, or steal her checkbook...things like that. Those laws are hard to apply to sports memorabilia.

Mickey Mantle, for example, is a widely known sports figure, so how is his signature any different from artwork? A signature of Mantle is basically an artistic doodle. No different than an Andy Warhol soup can. Selling reproductions of art isn't illegal. Mantle's signature on a glossy 8 x 10 is completely different than grandma's signature on a legal document. The former is a piece of art, while the latter is a negotiable instrument.

Is a reproduction only evident by the sales price? Is that "authentic" Babe Ruth signed ball you bought for $200 at the local antiques show, with and a nod and a wink from the store owner, a reproduction? Or were you a victim of a crime? Is it only a crime when you pay the full price of an authentic Ruth signature?

[drcy]

It's illegal to make or sell unlicensed reproductions of art if the artwork has copyrights/trademarks. It's illegal to sell 'reproductions' of Levi's jeans, Coach bags or NFL jerseys period-- whether or not you tell customers they aren't authentic. In fact, if you inform customers that those Coach bags aren't authentic, that's admission that you know you're selling counterfeits.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by drcy

It's illegal to make or sell unlicensed reproductions of art if the artwork has copyrights/trademarks. It's illegal to sell 'reproductions' of Levi's jeans, Coach bags or NFL jerseys period-- whether or not you tell customers they aren't authentic. In fact, if you inform customers that those Coach bags aren't authentic, that's admission that you know you're selling counterfeits.

another very good point

[scyrkin]

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[scyrkin]

Originally Posted by drcy

It's illegal to make or sell unlicensed reproductions of art if the artwork has copyrights/trademarks. It's illegal to sell 'reproductions' of Levi's jeans, Coach bags or NFL jerseys period-- whether or not you tell customers they aren't authentic. In fact, if you inform customers that those Coach bags aren't authentic, that's admission that you know you're selling counterfeits.

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[chalupacollects]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

Prison seems unlikely if he was selling Ali signed plaques for $19.99.

Most jurisdictions have forgery laws, but they only apply to things like real estate deeds and bank checks. So if you forge grandma's signature on a quit claim deed, or steal her checkbook...things like that. Those laws are hard to apply to sports memorabilia.

Mickey Mantle, for example, is a widely known sports figure, so how is his signature any different from artwork? A signature of Mantle is basically an artistic doodle. No different than an Andy Warhol soup can. Selling reproductions of art isn't illegal. Mantle's signature on a glossy 8 x 10 is completely different than grandma's signature on a legal document. The former is a piece of art, while the latter is a negotiable instrument.

Is a reproduction only evident by the sales price? Is that "authentic" Babe Ruth signed ball you bought for $200 at the local antiques show, with and a nod and a wink from the store owner, a reproduction? Or were you a victim of a crime? Is it only a crime when you pay the full price of an authentic Ruth signature?

If its fake and you sell it and you know its fake without disclosure its fraud... Does this jerk even have the rights to use the photographic images he is printing out?

[silvor]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

Most jurisdictions have forgery laws, but they only apply to things like real estate deeds and bank checks. So if you forge grandma's signature on a quit claim deed, or steal her checkbook...things like that. Those laws are hard to apply to sports memorabilia.

Selling a fake auto, purse, etc is called FRAUD, so there's that...

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

Selling reproductions of art isn't illegal.

Yes it is.

[shelly]

I would estimate that he has sold over 20,000,000 dollars over the past 17 years. I know that Richard, Chris and I have been keeping track of his sales for a very long time. The FBI in Florida refused to go after him. They had a slam dunk.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by shelly

I would estimate that he has sold over 20,000,000 dollars over the past 17 years. I know that Richard, Chris and I have been keeping track of his sales for a very long time. The FBI in Florida refused to go after him. They had a slam dunk.

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They certainly did!!!

A slam dunk!!!!

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by shelly

I would estimate that he has sold over 20,000,000 dollars over the past 17 years. I know that Richard, Chris and I have been keeping track of his sales for a very long time. The FBI in Florida refused to go after him. They had a slam dunk.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by shelly

I would estimate that he has sold over 20,000,000 dollars over the past 17 years. I know that Richard, Chris and I have been keeping track of his sales for a very long time. The FBI in Florida refused to go after him. They had a slam dunk.

the best point of all...

[RichardSimon]

started new thread.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

Prison seems unlikely if he was selling Ali signed plaques for $19.99.

Most jurisdictions have forgery laws, but they only apply to things like real estate deeds and bank checks. So if you forge grandma's signature on a quit claim deed, or steal her checkbook...things like that. Those laws are hard to apply to sports memorabilia.

Mickey Mantle, for example, is a widely known sports figure, so how is his signature any different from artwork? A signature of Mantle is basically an artistic doodle. No different than an Andy Warhol soup can. Selling reproductions of art isn't illegal. Mantle's signature on a glossy 8 x 10 is completely different than grandma's signature on a legal document. The former is a piece of art, while the latter is a negotiable instrument.

Is a reproduction only evident by the sales price? Is that "authentic" Babe Ruth signed ball you bought for $200 at the local antiques show, with and a nod and a wink from the store owner, a reproduction? Or were you a victim of a crime? Is it only a crime when you pay the full price of an authentic Ruth signature?

well put

[tdellis]

Any photos of him?

[RichardSimon]

Check with the Post Office, they may have a wanted poster.
In addition to what he does now, he is a convicted felon.

[tdellis]

So I know what he looks like

[Fuddjcal]

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...ny-autographs/

Happy Friday boys... Could you have a bigger belly laugh over this FFace.

"They are all Authentic, except I'm selling them as decorative items".... LOL

So many losers and this guy has been a festering boils on the hobby for 30 plus years. We can only hope a jury will see through the smoke screen that the boob set up thinking he was untouchable.

[RichardSimon]

This news made my day!!!

[Yastrzemski Sports]

If a person were inclined they could set up at almost any show in the country and sell fakes - except the National. He must have really wanted to go to jail.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Yastrzemski Sports

If a person were inclined they could set up at almost any show in the country and sell fakes - except the National. He must have really wanted to go to jail.

Can you imagine the gall of the guy. He's been perpetuating the same scam and giant fish tale for at least 35 years and has the brass balls to say he's selling them as decorative even though he believes they are real? CHOKE, cough....AT THE NATIONAL. Why would he even dream that one up when every legitimate collector and dealer knows he is the biggest scammer of sports autographs of our lifetime to go along with Coaches Corner, of course.

His newest of the 8 different Authentication scam companies finally tripped him up, I hope. We'll see if Slippity Slimy Tony GreaseBall finally gets his just reward. He was betting Not. because he has gotten away with it for so long.

We can only hope his scam dies in jail with him.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

Can you imagine the gall of the guy. He's been perpetuating the same scam and giant fish tale for at least 35 years and has the brass balls to say he's selling them as decorative even though he believes they are real? CHOKE, cough....AT THE NATIONAL. Why would he even dream that one up when every legitimate collector and dealer knows he is the biggest scammer of sports autographs of our lifetime to go along with Coaches Corner, of course.

His newest of the 8 different Authentication scam companies finally tripped him up, I hope. We'll see if Slippity Slimy Tony GreaseBall finally gets his just reward. He was betting Not. because he has gotten away with it for so long.

We can only hope his scam dies in jail with him.

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