Who makes these rules?????

[Rookiemonster]

So in the sports collectors hobby we have a few rules.

Thou Shall not trim thay cards.

Thou shall not recolor thay cards.

Thou shall not restore that cards.

Thou shall not covet thay neighbors cards! ( ok not a rule otherwise we will all be going to card he’ll)

Thou shall not rebuild thay corners.

Ok you guys get the point! When and where did these rules come from?


We have a bunch of types of collecting in the world and some of these seem ok.

Restoring and cleaning art= ok

Pressing comic books then grading them= ok

Cutting uncut sheets of old money and getting it graded = ok


In real art a very good old copy can bring a astonishing amount of money. In card it won’t unless your a conman.
I don’t understand why some of these thing seem fine in other hobby’s and not in others.I never understood the idea of not cleaning old coins. If it doesn’t cause damage and makes it look better then what’s the problem?
Again if you found a dirty old stain Picasso at a flea market. Then cleaned it up no problem.

[Roulette44]

While not necessarily germane to your point, i would note that in the comics world, restoration destroys the books value.....to an illogical level, in fact. take a book worth $100K and add two dots of color designed to cover up tiny blemishes.....book now worth less than $20K.

Cars might be a good comparison. Restoring a classic car can improve it's value......

Anyways, carry on!

[drcy]

One word: Disclosure.

[Rookiemonster]

Originally Posted by drcy

One word: Disclosure.

Right I fully get that but with disclosure the prices of a altered restored card is very different then a restore Picasso.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Rookiemonster

Right I fully get that but with disclosure the prices of a altered restored card is very different then a restore Picasso.

Just my guess but there is only 1 real Picasso of each subject. There are 1000s of Mantles 52 Topps(example only) card. So for me the restoration on a 1/1 painting makes sense and the restoration of a card that has 1000s of copies does not. So to me if a card is restored it should be worth less than an original copy.

[frankbmd]

If Picasso restored cards between paintings, I bet they would be worth more.

[irv]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Just my guess but there is only 1 real Picasso of each subject. There are 1000s of Mantles 52 Topps(example only) card. So for me the restoration on a 1/1 painting makes sense and the restoration of a card that has 1000s of copies does not. So to me if a card is restored it should be worth less than an original copy.

This^

If prints were available, which is common today, then those altered/trimmed/colored copies would be judged/viewed the same way as baseball cards.

One offs, for history reasons and preserving that history is an entirely different thing.

[Gradedcardman]

Originally Posted by Rookiemonster

Right I fully get that but with disclosure the prices of a altered restored card is very different then a restore Picasso.

If the piece is altered and graded or authenticated as such then so be it. If it is altered and graded as non-altered then most won't be forthcoming with that info. Always buyer beware.