Crossovers

[cardsnstuff]

With the backlog at PSA; I am thinking of trying the other companies, and than crossover the high grades.
What kind of results have you had crossing sgc to psa? What kind of results have you had crossing bvg to psa?

Assuming cards are left in competitor holders and not cracked out.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

why would you pay twice? It's not going to be any faster.

[cardsnstuff]

Sgc seems to be having pretty good turnaround times. I would only pay twice on the real high grade 8-10. I would be using sgc or bvg as kinda of a pre screener to determine unaltered, authentic, etc.

[Piratedogcardshows]

I personally have had better luck cracking cards out for crossover than sending the card in the holder. About 50-50 when I send the card in the holder that the grades will match. Thats just PSA/BVG to SGC as I have never submitted to the other two. Burnt a few times cracking cards out as a few have come back altered from PSA/BVG.

[toledo_mudhen]

Over the years I have sent numerous PSA to SGC Cross attempts and several BGS to SGC attempts as my preferred slab of choice has been SGC for a long time. Nearly all attempts were done trying to cross PSA/BGS 7s to SGC 84s

In my experience -

BGS to SGC is horrendous - maybe 25% success rate

PSA to SGC is somewhat better and probably hits around 50% success with one caveat - the new "lighthouse" hologram slabs seem to crossover at a rate of 90+ percent success. I have had 1 instance where a PSA 8 came back as an SGC 92 but all other successes were 7s to 84s.

One can only assume that PSA has tightened up their standards lately?

[Touch'EmAll]

Ha! I tried cracking out one PSA card in a newer holder, a 1987 Larry Bird. Thank goodness it was a low $ card as I had a heck of a time with new "press inside each other" slab - ruined the card. It is way more difficult to get cards out of the newer PSA cases. I will not try anymore, nope, not a chance. Back in the day, PSA slabs were easy to safely crack. Also, SGC pretty easy to crack out. BGS slabs are like Fort Knox, good luck with those.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Maybe I should post a youtube video of how to safely kill any slab.

[irv]

Originally Posted by 100backstroke

Ha! I tried cracking out one PSA card in a newer holder, a 1987 Larry Bird. Thank goodness it was a low $ card as I had a heck of a time with new "press inside each other" slab - ruined the card. It is way more difficult to get cards out of the newer PSA cases. I will not try anymore, nope, not a chance. Back in the day, PSA slabs were easy to safely crack. Also, SGC pretty easy to crack out. BGS slabs are like Fort Knox, good luck with those.

BGS slabs are easy to crack. David, who is also a member on here, posted this some time ago.
I had around 5-6 to crack and his method worked great. I was done all 5-6 in a matter of minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzrEsDe7TqQ

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by cardsnstuff

With the backlog at PSA; I am thinking of trying the other companies, and than crossover the high grades.
What kind of results have you had crossing sgc to psa? What kind of results have you had crossing bvg to psa?

Assuming cards are left in competitor holders and not cracked out.

Since you seem to prefer PSA, I would just submit to PSA Iand have some patience. What you propose seems irrational.

[DB4]

Pretty new to the whole grading world. Had a few questions. What is the advantage of getting a card graded by 2 services? Is it just considered more iron clad if 2 places both agree on a grade? Also what does a crossover graded card look like? Does PSA add a label onto a SGC slab?


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[swarmee]

No, you've got it wrong. People who collect the PSA set registry want their cards graded by PSA and are usually willing to have a slightly lower grade in a PSA slab. So by crossing over the card, if it meets the min grade requested, PSA will take it out of the BGS or SGC slab and put it in their own with the new PSA grade. Makes their collection more uniform if they are working on building a set with one company. Sometimes you can make a profit crossing, some time you'll take a loss.
Getting a card graded over a 5 from any grading service should ensure the card is crease-free, so knowing that will help you get a similar grade from PSA. Each third party grading company has slightly different things that will set them off: PSA rarely grades cards nowadays that is factory cut short. BGS will usually grade sheet cut cards (modern laser cuts of old complete sheets). SGC will hammer cards with writing on them, while PSA will give them a MK qualifier.