1908 Dietsche Cobb Variation

[insidethewrapper]

The 1908 Dietsche Cobb comes with his name on the front printed in White Letters (Cobb). It appears his name is printed "in the shadow "and "out of the shadow" to the left. The team poster shows it "out of the shadow" ( hard to see in scan).
This card is very rare, but which of these 2 varieties is the rarest ??? Any opinions ? See attachment scans. Since the poster shows " out of shadow" I was thinking " in shadow " may be rarer.

[BobC]

So is that the definitive way to determine a 1907 versus a 1908 Cobb postcard, the 1908 version has his name on the front and the 1907 version does not?

[insidethewrapper]

All of the 1907 issues have no name on the front of the card. The 1908 issue has "White Name" on the front if also issued in 1907 and "black name " on the front if 1908 is their initial postcard in the set ( not issued in 1907) . To complicate things , some 1908 copyrights have no names on them.

[BobC]

Wow, did not know that. Thanks for the valuable information.

[h2oya311]

The truly definitive way is to look on the back where the copyright shows 1907 vs. 1908.

But it is nice to know that there’s a way to tell by looking at the front. Nice job pointing out the two 1908 “name on front” variations. I hadn’t noticed the subtle difference in placement before.

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

The truly definitive way is to look on the back where the copyright shows 1907 vs. 1908.

But it is nice to know that there’s a way to tell by looking at the front. Nice job pointing out the two 1908 “name on front” variations. I hadn’t noticed the subtle difference in placement before.

+1

My guess is equally rare but not a price difference. Would like to know what Robert S thinks.

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

The truly definitive way is to look on the back where the copyright shows 1907 vs. 1908.

But it is nice to know that there’s a way to tell by looking at the front. Nice job pointing out the two 1908 “name on front” variations. I hadn’t noticed the subtle difference in placement before.

Just to note, that there are also several players (Beckendorf, Delahanty, T. Jones, Moriary, Stanage and Works) issued in 1909 and these often come with a 1908 copyright on the back.

[Nonsensename1]

Mine is out of the shadows as well.


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[BobbyVCP]

It seems looking through all the images on VCP that 90% or more of this card comes without the name COBB on it at all. So you would think that having this card with the COBB on it would carry a premium?

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

It seems looking through all the images on VCP that 90% or more of this card comes without the name COBB on it at all. So you would think that having this card with the COBB on it would carry a premium?

Most people want a “rookie” from 1907. Both versions with “COBB” printed on it are from 1908.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

Most people want a “rookie” from 1907. Both versions with “COBB” printed on it are from 1908.

And Kevin just explained why. The cards with the “Cobb” written on them are not the 1907 cards. So while rarer they are later. As for in the shadow or outside, I think it’s a distinction without much of any monetary difference.

[insidethewrapper]

1907 Dietsche Cobb - Higher Supply- Higher Demand
1908 Dietsche Cobb - Lower Supply - Lower Demand

Note: What is a "Calvindog" ? What does this mean ?

[Leon]

As a rookie collector it would seem a clear choice. Great info in this thread.

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

Most people want a “rookie” from 1907. Both versions with “COBB” printed on it are from 1908.

[insidethewrapper]

Still looking for more examples of the 1908 Dietsche Ty Cobb postcard. Anyone have the "Cobb" white name in the shadow ? Still only one shown.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

It seems looking through all the images on VCP that 90% or more of this card comes without the name COBB on it at all. So you would think that having this card with the COBB on it would carry a premium?

The cards with the Cobb writing are from a different year. There’s definitely a premium for these cards. Not very much though in my estimation.