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Old 12-20-2017, 08:16 PM
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I don't even understand the point of some of this crap. What is a Lou Gehrig sapphire? And what is this? And why is it 10 or 10.? And what kind of sapphire sells for $10. Crazy train. Paging PT Barnum.

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Old 12-20-2017, 08:55 PM
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That's really strange. Are they claiming that they crushed a sapphire from, let's say, a cuff link once owned by Gehrig, and placed fragments of it in cards?
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Old 12-20-2017, 09:15 PM
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That's really strange. Are they claiming that they crushed a sapphire from, let's say, a cuff link once owned by Gehrig, and placed fragments of it in cards?
No - it's not a "relic" card in the sense that it was ever owned by Gehrig. It's just a tiny, low-quality sapphire mounted into the card.
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The sapphire is just a shard of glass/gemstone. Has no connection to Gehrig except it resides on the same card. They made 10 of them with an embedded "sapphire." This one is the last one that got numbered.
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Still trying to wrap my head around this one.

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Saphire aside, it's a strange design. The blue part looks like a running shoe insole.
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Old 12-21-2017, 05:37 AM
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The gems are just aesthetics added to show rarity. Like the colored boarders topps did/does. It's just artificial scarcity. The first issue of flawless basketball looked much much better imho. I have some gasols from it.
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Here's one even better {even though this is my item; I think it's a joke}

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Still trying to wrap my head around this one.
If a 13/25 went for this amount what would a 1/25 go for? Wish I had it and could offer it on EBay!! Maybe these bidders would bite again.
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What was the first insert of note? I remember a Lombardi trophy hologram card in the 1990 or 1991 Pro Set but was there a true watershed one, or series, that sent the hobby down this path?

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What was the first insert of note? I remember a Lombardi trophy hologram card in the 1990 or 1991 Pro Set but was there a true watershed one, or series, that sent the hobby down this path?
I think the first numbered cards in the 1991 and 1992 sets (Donruss Elite Series, UD Heroes autos) were probably what set the whole thing in motion. Of course inserts were part of Topps cards back in 1956 when they started putting in the mail in cards for gloves and transistor radios for predicting game scores. Then lucky penny in 1957.
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1986 Fleer All Stars. The first numbered insert was the 1990 Upper Deck Heroes Reggie Jackson auto. The Lombardi trophy and Donruss Elites were after that.
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The 73 and 74 baseball team checklists were inserts.
And the 68 game, and 69 deckle edge.
71 coins
64 coins

Probably others.

1984 Topps racks had the all star inserts. Those lasted till 1990.

The modern ones already mentioned were the beginning of the escalation, the UD signed cards were a big deal, and the 93 Finest refractors were a big deal at the time.
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The 73 and 74 baseball team checklists were inserts.
And the 68 game, and 69 deckle edge.
71 coins
64 coins

Probably others.

1984 Topps racks had the all star inserts. Those lasted till 1990.

The modern ones already mentioned were the beginning of the escalation, the UD signed cards were a big deal, and the 93 Finest refractors were a big deal at the time.
Those were in every pack. The 1986 Fleer All Stars were the first modern insert. You didn't get one in every pack. They were seeded one in six packs, so it was a big deal to pull one. It started what became an insert craze in the early 90's. The inserts, then memorabilia and autographed cards became all people cared about and the regular cards, outside of rookie cards, became an afterthought.
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In 1965 Topps put gold foil inserts in a few packs. They were mostly star players, 72 players in all. And they were butt ugly. There's still a lot of them on ebay.
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What was the first insert of note? I remember a Lombardi trophy hologram card in the 1990 or 1991 Pro Set but was there a true watershed one, or series, that sent the hobby down this path?

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Proset had a Santa Clause insert too. I think upper deck started the auto thing in 1990 with Reggie Jackson. I think Score did it around the same time with Mantle.
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