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Old 04-27-2017, 11:34 AM
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Default 19th C. Baseball Puzzle/Game

Just recently returned from SABR's 19th C. Research Conference in Cooperstown and promptly found myself lucky enough to be in a position to add this very interesting baseball game/puzzle.

The item itself is known as a dexterity puzzle and something that all of us are surely familiar with...the concept being that all balls rolling around inside the frame need to be maneuvered and positioned in each of the spaces on the game board.

What makes this particular example so very interesting and appealing to me is the size and the subject matter.

The game piece is 3" long and 2" wide, includes 10 small, clay balls, a flawless glass pane, and reflects what, to me, is clearly a 19th C. baseball field layout.

It depicts a square (diamond) shaped home plate that rests completely in fair ground, and distinct pitchers box rather than a mound, and a spot where the umpire would stand to the rear right of the catcher. Given these factors, I suspect the game is a product of the late 1870s - mid 1880s.

I've never seen such an item and am curious whether or not any of you 19th C. or baseball game collectors have come across one of know of one?

I've attached pics of the game from the front, the front with some of the balls in play, a lateral view (lots of patina on this piece), and one of the reverse of the piece. Any and all thoughts would be appreciated.

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Old 04-27-2017, 12:05 PM
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Very interesting. Haven't seen before. What is it made of? Does it seem like aluminum? If so, unlikely it is late 1870s to mid -1880s, because at that time aluminum was more expensive than silver, and this piece looks crudely stamped and constructed. Wasn't until 1890s that aluminum was more cheapily processed and available. If its sheet steel (you can tell if it is magnetic), then ignore what I just said.

Very cool! Congrats.
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Old 04-27-2017, 12:19 PM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1890s-Baseba...AAAOSwhlZYsjDT
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Here is a patent for what looks like a somewhat similar game from 1907.

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here is another that sold on ebay..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Vintage-...IAAOSw~AVYnKcA
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In almost thirty years of collecting and researching baseball games, we'd never seen an example of this one
until the February eBay auction to which Joe linked (thanks Joe!). The eBay vendor responded courteously
to questions about the piece, but essentially had no information to add. Funny that two or three examples of
the previously unknown game suddenly turn up in the span of two months (implying nothing -- it does happen).
We too would be curious whether it's aluminum or steel... Joe, we'd also like a better look at that patent, but
your pic is too small for us to read the patent number...
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