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Old 01-17-2017, 08:29 PM
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I recently won some items from Heritage that were PSA/DNA pre-certified. I was expecting a letter or something but got nothing. I sent them a message but have had no response. Does this mean they are guaranteed to pass if sent or should I have received additional paperwork?
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I recently won some items from Heritage that were PSA/DNA pre-certified. I was expecting a letter or something but got nothing. I sent them a message but have had no response. Does this mean they are guaranteed to pass if sent or should I have received additional paperwork?

For a company built on customer trust, it certainly is fascinating how lazy PSA is in regards to responding to customer email inquiries.


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I sent them a message but have had no response.
Unfortunately, PSA's customer service is really lame. It took me over a month to receive a simple response e-mail about how my grades popped (by this time, I had already gotten back the package ). This is something I sincerely hope they fix. Think of how good Amazon is with customer service--PSA should be (but isn't) on the same level. It's up to you how you proceed--I just wouldn't count on receiving a response message from PSA for a while.
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Old 01-17-2017, 09:45 PM
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My understanding that auction letters are fairly useless. The only thing they guarantee is getting a cheaper price on a full certification. There have been many reported cases where items have failed full certification even with the auction cert. The group ones are worse from my understanding as they don't guarantee that ALL the items are real.
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Pre-cert is not a guarantee on anything. You can submit them for full letters and they could conceivably be rejected. When I bid in auctions that only offer pre-cert or auction LOAs I will contact the house ahead of time and ask if I am able to upgrade to a full cert if I win the auction. Usually there is a pretty substantial discount compared to a re-submission. I only paid an extra $50 to have a Cy Young upgraded to a full cert. If the house doesn't offer the upgrade service I don't bid because I know it's just rolling the dice on an unauthenticated item.
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I've heard psa is a guarantee, but I KNOW jsa pre-cert is "just a cursory review of the big names"
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Thanks for the help guys. It amazes me how bad PSA's customer service is. I just received this response from a question I had over a month ago.

"Good Afternoon,

First, I would like to address the fact that it has taken over a month to respond to your initial email. We have fallen behind in the customer service department and we are working to address this issue and catch up on all email correspondence."

Well......at least they're working on it.
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I would much rather purchase an uncertified autograph (from a dealer or AH that I trust) that I feel certain is real, and that has no LOA, than one that I am not sure about that has a full letter from JSA or PSA. Pre-cert or full letter means nothing to me, but I like it when they come with my autograph, as they add confidence for my customers if I re-sell.

I can't imagine mothballing my skills and judgement and handing that responsibility over to Spence or Grad, but we shouldn't forget that there are guys who just want to own an expensive autograph and aren't really collectors, who have to rely exclusively on PSA or JSA, simply because they don't visit forums and thus are not aware of alternatives. The problem, of course, is when they accidentally become friends with someone who knows autographs, and that person comes over for a martini and picks up the forged Ruth ball on the mantel and winces. Most of us would just spit up our olive and try not to drop the ball.
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The problem, of course, is when they accidentally become friends with someone who knows autographs, and that person comes over for a martini and picks up the forged Ruth ball on the mantel and winces. Most of us would just spit up our olive and try not to drop the ball.
I think I would just get another martini rather than address my friend's forged Ruth ball. I mean after 3 or 4 martinis that Ruth ball might look better and better !!!
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