1993 Hawaiian Winter League Ichiro

[FirstYearCards]

http://japanesebaseballcards.blogspo...gue-cards.html

Looking for any updated info on this card/cards. I'm aware of the 4 versions, but has anyone ever looked further into this. Any comments appreciated.

[DaClyde]

Since these all trace back to a single "dealer" in Hawaii, and no one has ever seen an actual "set", I still think these are bogus customs produced sometime in 2001. The "reprints" just being a red herring to lend credence to the non-reprints being legit. Beckett and PSA are just stuck in an Emperor's New Clothes situation.

[Exhibitman]

If there was a real break-in in Hilo it would generate a police report as well as probably a local news story. Anyone on the Big Island could check into it if they are in Hilo.

[DaClyde]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

If there was a real break-in in Hilo it would generate a police report as well as probably a local news story. Anyone on the Big Island could check into it if they are in Hilo.

And seriously, in 1993, what thief stealing from a card shop in 1993 would snag a pile of worthless winter league cards?

[DaClyde]

Dredging this from the grave, I did just find this article from 1993:

https://www.newspapers.com/article/h...nte/124015678/

[Exhibitman]

Great research, Jason. It certainly lends credence to the 1993 date.

[todeen]

My take from the article, why 500 cards of Sid Fernandez?

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[jp1216]

Originally Posted by todeen

My take from the article, why 500 cards of Sid Fernandez?

Sid Fernandez is from Hawaii. Kaiser HS.

I remember getting a Pepsi Promo card of Sid at a show in Hawaii in early '91.

[packs]

I don't think these cards are real. The set mentioned doesn't have any checklist attached to it. While it might be some other scarce regional issue there is no guarantee the set referenced in the news article featured Ichiro or is related in anyway to the supposed set with the Ichiro we're familiar with.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

I don't think these cards are real. The set mentioned doesn't have any checklist attached to it. While it might be some other scarce regional issue there is no guarantee the set referenced in the news article featured Ichiro or is related in anyway to the supposed set with the Ichiro we're familiar with.

Ichiro was on the team whose set is mentioned though, no? Seems unlikely they would have made a set without him.

[packs]

There are no players mentioned at all. It just says Hawaii league. That’s what I’m pointing out. There are no identifying characteristics listed for the set mentioned in the article at all. It’s just assumed this Ichiro card is part of the set mentioned in the article but there’s no real connection that anyone can discern from that short article. I’ve yet to encounter a set that managed to feature every single player in the league. I would say it’s hard to suggest that because Ichiro played in the league and there may have been a small set produced for this card show that the set must have featured Ichiro. You can’t tell which is all I’m saying.

[mrmopar]

Love stuff like this. Is this standard card size or larger, like a postcard?

Originally Posted by jp1216

Sid Fernandez is from Hawaii. Kaiser HS.

I remember getting a Pepsi Promo card of Sid at a show in Hawaii in early '91.

[jp1216]

Originally Posted by mrmopar

Love stuff like this. Is this standard card size or larger, like a postcard?

Standard 2 1/2 x 3 1/2.

Originally Posted by mrmopar

This pops up when I did a Sid Pepsi search.

Nice! A match! Looks like Cutter Automotive was the lead sponsor (along with Pepsi & 7-11).

[mrmopar]

Card sized makes that an even better score.

I was stationed on Oahu while this promotion was happening, but never knew about it. Bummer. I remember all the Cutter dealerships though and a group of us even went down to pick up an old beater Dart from one.