I think Big Papi is winning me over - even if I don't want him to

[clydepepper]

Never a fan of the DH, I do recognize Ortiz's value to his team even in a thoroughly lost season. Best DH ever has to be between him and Edgar.

While HOF election has thus far eluded Edger, I'm not sure Ortiz can be left out...and if he gets in, it may pave the way, not only for Edgar, but also for some of those with vague PED connections...so, I'm divided on whether or not I would want Big Papi in. Certainly, he is a HOF personality, a Red Sox HOFer and very well paid...should that be enough?


By the way, am I the only one that thinks it is a big deal that Wade Boggs's number is not retired?
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[7nohitter]

Ray,

As a lifelong Sox fan I'd say Ortiz is definitely a HOF'er, hitting #500 tonight and the 3 rings...plus he continues to put up great numbers, even at 39 years old.

As for Boggs-not sure what the deal is here. It's interesting that no player has worn 21 (I believe) since Clemens left, but 26 has been given out many times. It's possible that even though Boggs did get the many batting titles while in Boston, the WS loss in '86 and the pathetic performances against Oakland in '88 and '90 really push the perception that Boggs was a selfish player...that he only cared about his .300 avg. Plus, his pathetic horse riding charade in ny doesn't help.

[Jim65]

He's a cheater, I hope he gets less than 5% in his first year and falls off the ballot.

[7nohitter]

Originally Posted by Jim65

He's a cheater, I hope he gets less than 5% in his first year and falls off the ballot.

Little bitter there, Jim?

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by 7nohitter

Little bitter there, Jim?

You wanna be a fan of a guy who breaks the rules, that's your right, doesn't mean I have to.

[7nohitter]

Originally Posted by Jim65

You wanna be a fan of a guy who breaks the rules, that's your right, doesn't mean I have to.

I'm also a Tom Brady fan!

[freakhappy]

He's a major league ball player putting up HOF numbers = HOFer...end of story.

I don't care if he was a punter in the NFL. If he is the best at his position, you have to look and judge him for it. It's very very difficult to do what he's done and he's still doing it at age 39. Haters can hate all they want, but if you open your eyes, he's a HOFer over and over again. And if I'm not mistaken, didn't a few HOFers come out and admit to using illegal substances in their playing days? Let's get off of our high horse and give the man credit for being a great player. Look at what Arod is doing this year. He cheated, but let's be honest, he's a HOFer over and over whether we want to admit it or not. One of the best to ever play. He'll most likely never get in...at least right away, but he's an elite ballplayer and there's no denying it.