Please help Just got a t206 need opinions on it being tampered with

[Joshchisox08]

Ok guys for starters this guy sent the card addressed to my dad who won a card off him many days after I won the Dubuc and took about a week to ship it. The eBay photo has no damage to the top left hand corner of the Dubuc. But you can faintly see some frosting as I missed that when looking at it previously only noticed it in person.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1910-1911-T2...vip=true&rt=nc

Then the moron shipped it in a regular envelope no padding, no cardboard. Could that have resulted in a chip on the left hand corner and air seeped through and added some "frosting" to the card which is present at the top and bottom ?????

Please see the scans I'm attaching as well as iPhone pics. I want to know if I'm going to be reporting this guy who does have 125 100% feedback. Perhaps it was just poor shipping on his behalf and I'll give him an earful.

Please let me know your opinions.

[wolf441]

I'd say that an earful is called for at the very least. He could have shipped in a bubble mailer with cardboard for less than it cost, based on the $3.73 postage in your pic. Sorry, that sucks.

Best of luck,

Steve

[Jobu]

I am going to say that it is shipping damage. I am not sure what the tampering would be on that card because, while it is a nice image, it has tape, missing paper, and isn't a high value card - it would seem odd to tamper with a card with other blemishes and then put it in a 2 holder. That said, I think the seller should return your shipping fees and then some because now you have to look at a busted holder or pay to get a new one. Good luck.

[vintagetoppsguy]

It definitely happened during shipping because the damage isn't shown in the seller's eBay pic (below). I would ask for a shipping refund.

Also, you might want to remove (or edit) the pic with your address.

[Joshchisox08]

Well I'm glad thus far that it hasn't been tampered with. I guess I'm too trustworthy of the people on this site already Dave. But with your suggestion I removed the picture of a standard envelope.

[swarmee]

He doesn't need an earful. Just send him a message through eBay with a picture of the dented corner and ask him for $5-8 to reholder the card from SGC.

Unless your intent was to crack it out and soak the stain, then send in to PSA, in which case he's assisted you in cracking the case. ;-)

[Joshchisox08]

John I don't even know where to begin with soaking and submitting to be graded but I actually appreciate the comedy as the news is good thus far !

[freakhappy]

I had a card come in the mail a month or so back that was cracked and the card was ripped. Luckily it was a $20 card, but that's not the point. I don't care if the card is worth $2, I expect exactly what I pay for, in the condition that the auction picture displays. If the seller ships it loosely in a thin bubble mailer and it damages the card, we got a problem. This sort of shipping happens a lot in our hobby and it's something that will probably not go away completely...so we'll be forced to hope our stuff makes it unharmed.

I would suggest returning the card for a refund unless you really like it. You SHOULD NOT have to pay for this card to get reholdered. You will put $15-20 into just getting it reslabbed after shipping, insurance, fees, etc., ultimately it is up to you, but the ball will be in your court soon to make a final decision.

[mrvster]

sorry about the run around your getting.....when you get a great card makes it all worth it....hardly any consolation.....hope all works out

[Joshchisox08]

He won't give a partial refund. If it's only redemption I won my first ever Tolstoi back and a PSA 4 for $32, and a Jennings portrait for $50. So I made out well yesterday.

With the exception of a Kleinow and Needham avoiding my grasps arggggghhhhhhhhh.

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

He won't give a partial refund.

So he's offering a full refund?

[Joshchisox08]

He offered a full refund. If I ship the card back which I stated I want to keep the card just would like a refund of shipping which he claims he didn't charge but he did on my fathers card. That's why he waited so long and shipped them in the same crappy envelope. Nor will he refund for a new slab. Which I told him to just forget the shipping and just for a new slab which he refused to so.