Beckett (BVG) Holder Questions

[D.P.Johnson]

I know most folks aren't huge Beckett (BVG) fans, but I was wondering if any of their holders have ever been faked, or if anyone has ever found a fake card inside of a BVG holder. I recall this happening with PSA holders a few years back, but I don't recall ever reading about this type of thing happening with BVG (or SGC for that matter). Thanks in advance...

[Jdoggs]

BVG holders are tamper free. PSA and SGC holders can be tampered with.

[brewing]

I do not remember the exact issue, but I have heard of at least one fake pre war card in a BVG slab, put there by Beckett.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by brewing

I do not remember the exact issue, but I have heard of at least one fake pre war card in a BVG slab, put there by Beckett.

It still amazes me that Beckett was SUCH a leader in price evaluations in the 1980s.you would think they had a huge lead in credibility to be the THE third party grader.....somehow they let that slip by....

people in their 40s and older who just got back into the hobby..actually are shocked when learning BVG stands where they do...they always assume initially BVG is the leader....

[D.P.Johnson]

Thanks for the replies gentlemen; I appreciate it. It's my understanding that no one has discovered any faked BVG holders, but that there could be a fake card inside of one of the holders if one of the graders made a mistake. It's also my understanding (mainly from reading) that Beckett seems to be extremely popular with the newer card/autograph collectors, but not so popular with the vintage collectors...

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

It still amazes me that Beckett was SUCH a leader in price evaluations in the 1980s.you would think they had a huge lead in credibility to be the THE third party grader.....somehow they let that slip by....

people in their 40s and older who just got back into the hobby..actually are shocked when learning BVG stands where they do...they always assume initially BVG is the leader....

I must have missed that "official survey" done of over 40s that got back into the hobby. I'll have to look around for that.

IMO Beckett is a solid grading company. I have sent hundreds of cards to all 3 major companies and they all have pros and cons. Many of which can be found on Net54.

To say that "folks are shocked" is a bit of a stretch. Beckett is a solid grading company that has airtight and attractive holders in which cards do not move around in.

I still use all 3 TPGs as each has its own areas of expertise.

Peace, Mike

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by vtgmsc

I must have missed that "official survey" done of over 40s that got back into the hobby. I'll have to look around for that.

IMO Beckett is a solid grading company. I have sent hundreds of cards to all 3 major companies and they all have pros and cons. Many of which can be found on Net54.

To say that "folks are shocked" is a bit of a stretch. Beckett is a solid grading company that has airtight and attractive holders in which cards do not move around in.

I still use all 3 TPGs as each has its own areas of expertise.

Peace, Mike

Yes you are right PSA had the same following as Beckett in the 1980ss..lots of high schooler in 1980s carried PSA and not Becket Guides

its obvious PSA should of dominated the grading market compared to beckett given how nobody knew anything about beckett in the 80s

You can use all 3 TPGs as much as you want...but look at VCP for psa versus beckett...I would be shocked if beckett outperformed PSA....people new to the hobby from the 80s are shocked ..people who know beckett and never heard of PSA... but you are right I 100% wrong cause no survey..

[Exhibitman]

BVG has a better product, no doubt. It is more secure and better at preserving the contents. But PSA with the registry rules the high-numbered slab arena and SGC has a strong prewar following. Any time a BVG slab shows up with a marquee card in it people wonder why it isn't in PSA or SGC. I've thought about sending them stuff but I just can't see taking the potential financial hit if I ever go to sell.

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

BVG has a better product, no doubt. It is more secure and better at preserving the contents. But PSA with the registry rules the high-numbered slab arena and SGC has a strong prewar following. Any time a BVG slab shows up with a marquee card in it people wonder why it isn't in PSA or SGC. I've thought about sending them stuff but I just can't see taking the potential financial hit if I ever go to sell.

Weren't Becket holders the only ones hat had UV protection also? I remembered reading that on here before, but don't know if that is completely true. I have cut open a number of Beckett holders to liberate cards and find them the hardest to open. I actually had to cut them with a chop saw. They were completely sonic welded around the entire card...almost impossible to open with any other means. There is no need to look for frosting in these holders, unlike PSA holders, as I doubt you could ever pry open a holder without damaging the cards.

I just happen to prefer ungraded cards....so opened the BvG holders.

Z Wheat

[K-Nole]

Buy the card, not the holder.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by K-Nole

Buy the card, not the holder.

Unless you are the one having the card put into a holder...

I am really considering having BVG slab my 'never gonna sell them' items as it seems to be the best way to preserve them.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Unless you are the one having the card put into a holder...

I am really considering having BVG slab my 'never gonna sell them' items as it seems to be the best way to preserve them.

Adam, I am glad you said that. I find myself looking at BVG more than I used to. I rarely send in anything for grading, but I might consider BVG if I did. Those holders are difficult to bust open. From time to time, I have seen what I believe to be good buys on cards residing in BVG holders.

[TheNightmanCometh]

It would go a long way, in the looks department, if they would redesign their info plate. It looks about as bland as bland can be. Spruce the dang thing up and make it look cool!