Who looks at Hauls Of Shame website

[BeanTown]

I spent sometime on their website http://haulsofshame.com/index.php

After reading and looking at tons of pictures and articles. I would be scared to buy most anything of value from the 19th century from any auction company. Seems there are a ton of stolen collections from libraries, musuems, and personal collections being circulated in the market.

Many big name people are mentioned in multiple articles. Barry Halper and Rob Lifston with REA leading the way. Ive read about the sites owner Peter Nash past, as its not good at all. A movie comes to mind called catch me if you can starring Tom Hanks and Leonardo Decaprio.

I would imagine that statue of limitations would apply on both a state and Federal level. Looking at the years of when many thefts occured it would not surprise me a bit if more "fresh material" hits the market this decade as longtime collectors have past away and their family members are looking to sell.

Does thrid party grading companies have a responsibility to not only assign a grade to the condition of the card and if its real or not, but should they also ensure its not on the "HOT" list which the Feds and Police put out??

[Brian Van Horn]

I end up looking at the site after posts here about the latest goings on either with the site operator or the hobby. Now, with the site's operator's current goings on.......

[Bob Lemke]

I don't look at the site because it is depressing . . . the pot calling the kettle black.

But I do have a question that nags at me: Who is funding this site, paying for Nash's research and time? And why?

[slidekellyslide]

It would worry me some if I had a large collection of 19th Century material...that seems to have been the era that thieves concentrated on when it was easy for them to walk out of the Hall of Fame library or the NYPL with it.

As for Hauls of Shame, I usually look at it once every few weeks. It's interesting to see what he "reports" on and what he ignores.

[Tabe]

I read the site regularly. I get an email every time Peter posts something new so I pretty much see everything on the site. I get that he's got a sketchy background as far as his own history. However, the stuff he covers seems to be pretty legit and accurate/honest.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Does anyone else smell something fishy here????

[rdwyer]

This article caught my attention. Both Pawn stars and Steve Grad (PSA) are mentioned.

SAY-HEY: Chumlee Was Right! Uni-Historian Says Pawn Stars Bought A Bogus Willie Mays Uniform & Then Sold It At Beverly Hills Auction For $20K

http://haulsofshame.com/blog/?p=35202

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

I spent sometime on their website http://haulsofshame.com/index.php

After reading and looking at tons of pictures and articles. I would be scared to buy most anything of value from the 19th century from any auction company. Seems there are a ton of stolen collections from libraries, musuems, and personal collections being circulated in the market.

Many big name people are mentioned in multiple articles. Barry Halper and Rob Lifston with REA leading the way. Ive read about the sites owner Peter Nash past, as its not good at all. A movie comes to mind called catch me if you can starring Tom Hanks and Leonardo Decaprio.

I would imagine that statue of limitations would apply on both a state and Federal level. Looking at the years of when many thefts occured it would not surprise me a bit if more "fresh material" hits the market this decade as longtime collectors have past away and their family members are looking to sell.

Does thrid party grading companies have a responsibility to not only assign a grade to the condition of the card and if its real or not, but should they also ensure its not on the "HOT" list which the Feds and Police put out??

JC, is it true that you you cooperated with the feds in the case against the Mastro defendants? I'm sure it's possible I'm wrong but I had heard you had committed significant shill bidding of your consignments in their auctions.

[Duluth Eskimo]

As suspected and now as Paul Harvey used to say, "Now for the rest of the story".

[BeanTown]

Completely wrong there Jeff and you heard wrong. Not sure what your purpose was for making a public post like that. What does your comment have to do with the thread? Who did you hear it from anyways?? Maybe you should be a writer for the Halls of shame.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

Completely wrong there Jeff and you heard wrong. Not sure what your purpose was for making a public post like that. What does your comment have to do with the thread? Who did you hear it from anyways?? Maybe you should be a writer for the Halls of shame.

Nah, I think I'm right. My purpose in posting is it that maybe you're not the best person to be ripping Pete Nash. So you deny shill bidding your consignments in Mastro?

[BeanTown]

You must have mis-understood my post. I have never met Mr. Nash or have ever delt with him. I didnt even know he published the Hauls of Shame website until yesterday. I googled his name to read what others have saidboth goodand bad. My thread in no way was trying to slam him... I actually enjoyed his site and I said I spent hours on it. Plus I posted a link to let others see the site. I think if people back it up with facts then it is Legit, which it looks like he does on many articles. If he uses "hearsay" or opinions then we can make up our own determination on what to believe.

Not going to have a public debate with you either Jeff but feel free to contact me privately. Going back to read some more Hauls of Shame articles and so you know I was a victim on a card that was consigned to Mastro/Legendary. So, dont jump to conclusions before getting the facts from the source!

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

Not going to have a public debate with you either Jeff but feel free to contact me privately. Going back to read some more Hauls of Shame articles and so you know I was a victum on a card that was consigned to Mastro/Legendary. So, dont jump to conclusions before getting the facts from the source!

JC, I can read the indictment. That's a better source than you.

[danmckee]

I do always! Though you may not like him or his past.... He posted an excellent blurb about the FAKE Magie Error cards that were being produced and 3rd party Graded by the IDIOT PSA MORONs!

I think he has changed and turned over a new leaf and is good for the hobby!

Dan Mckee

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by danmckee

I do always! Though you may not like him or his past.... He posted an excellent blurb about the FAKE Magie Error cards that were being produced and 3rd party Graded by the IDIOT PSA MORONs!

I think he has changed and turned over a new leaf and is good for the hobby!

Dan Mckee

I hope u r right about turning over a new leaf...If so...I agree this is good for the hobby.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by danmckee

I do always! Though you may not like him or his past.... He posted an excellent blurb about the FAKE Magie Error cards that were being produced and 3rd party Graded by the IDIOT PSA MORONs!

I think he has changed and turned over a new leaf and is good for the hobby!

Dan Mckee

Dan - in the past he stole from people and he has still not repaid his debt. Now he openly steals our research and ideas, publishing it on his website as his own. As a writer, that is deplorable.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Dan - in the past he stole from people and he has still not repaid his debt. Now he openly steals our research and ideas, publishing it on his website as his own. As a writer, that is deplorable.

He also once filled his comments section with comments from people on this board who did not reply to his blog post. I don't think he's turned a new leaf at all...he's *the* guy in the glass house throwing rocks.