This Cum Posey appears to be a laser copy to me

[mighty bombjack]

This is up in the current Clean Sweep auction (which is pretty loaded if you haven't checked it out). For anyone who has seen any of the few Cum Posey signed diplomas out there, this signature and "Director" line look identical to those. The problem is that those always have names signed on lines directly above and/or below Posey's. An example:



Quite simply, this looks like a re-creation to me, a laser copy of a small piece of one of those original diplomas.

Any thoughts?

[RichardSimon]

You mean to tell me that the card that Posey autograph is "signed" on did not originally have the word director printed on it??
Those cards are very, very common
Nice catch Wayne.

[tazdmb]

I won't get into the pros and cons of Hauls of Shame, but they did post about about this same autograph 3 years ago:

http://haulsofshame.com/blog/?p=12816

[Lordstan]

I wonder if this could real. To my eyes, the paper where Posey is signed, as well as the Director print, appear darker than the rest of the paper. Could the rest of it have been erased, leaving only the Posey? Look at the area starting at the last tip of the "W" arching over the "P" and ending just after the "e". The arch, to my eyes, shows a clear line of demarcation between darker yellow paper below and lighter yellow paper above.

Anyone else see this?

[daves_resale_shop]

Originally Posted by Lordstan

I wonder if this could real. To my eyes, the paper where Posey is signed, as well as the Director print, appear darker than the rest of the paper. Could the rest of it have been erased, leaving only the Posey? Look at the area starting at the last tip of the "W" arching over the "P" and ending just after the "e". The arch, to my eyes, shows a clear line of demarcation between darker yellow paper below and lighter yellow paper above.

Anyone else see this?

I agree with Mark... Looks like someone took a super fine grit sandpaper to the area surrounding the signature...

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by daves_resale_shop

I agree with Mark... Looks like someone took a super fine grit sandpaper to the area surrounding the signature...

I think that is a stretch.
The piece of paper with the alleged signature is old and toned.
Is it possible to erase printing like that on the document with fine grit sandpaper and not leave one shred of printing that was on the document?
I do not know the answer to that but my guess is no.
And considering what we know about the Ty Cobb slab I would think that laser print is more likely then an erasure that is so perfectly done.

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by tazdmb

I won't get into the pros and cons of Hauls of Shame, but they did post about about this same autograph 3 years ago:

http://haulsofshame.com/blog/?p=12816

You know, I think I read that post back then. I thought that the piece looked vaguely familiar, but I couldn't place where I had seen it. Thanks for posting this Frank.