MC vs. OC Qualifiers

[Buythatcard]

This has always bugged me. What is the real difference between the OC (Off Centered) and MC (Miscut) Qualifiers. To me they usually look the same.

I included 2 cards in this post. One has a OC and the other a MC. Which one do you think has the MC Qualifier?

[4815162342]

I would guess the '69 is the MC but since you're trying to make a point I will guess it's the '58.

[swarmee]

69 has a Diamond Cut, so I'd guess it has the MC. However, showing the backs if they have any printing lines should also be considered.

[brewing]

Is it me or do allot of the cards with qualifiers seem over graded. No way is that 69 an 8.

[bn2cardz]

69 - MC it is miscut as it is a diamond cut
58 - OC it is Off Centered but the borders are still straight

[Buythatcard]

Never too late to learn something new but what is meant by a diamond cut?

I also agree that that the card is over graded but the qualifier brings it down a notch or two.

[glchen]

How are the backs? MC usually means part of the card inside the border has been cut off (just passes on these cards) or you can see part of the next card. Both front and back are checked for these criteria .

[glynparson]

The MC could very easily be on the back of the card. From the looks of the front both should only be oc. A tilted photo on a square card does not generally get MC but a card without a square cut may. MC is usually reserved for cards worse than 99-1 centering. Edited: Now that scans are added the 1969 is clearly mc.

[Luke]

The MC designation seems to be given out very arbitrarily. This one is just o/c a bit top-to-bottom.

[pclpads]

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

Never too late to learn something new but what is meant by a diamond cut?

Sub "tilt" for "diamond" and you have it. '69MM is MC on back due to chopped print at the top border. '58MM is just badly O/C.

[4815162342]

Nm

[bobbvc]

Seems like one qualifier would be all you would need. Unless Newman from Seinfeld is doing the grading. "While all Mis-Cut cards are Off-Center, all Off-Center cards are not Necessarily Mis-Cut".