Pirate Cigarettes on eBay

[AJR]

I was curious if a board member won the pirate cigarettes pack with card inside on eBay last night?

If so, will you share with us which t215 was inside... If any?

Assuming you open the pack.

Thanks!

It was a probstein auction.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/371159796338...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[buymycards]

The title says "T206", but chances are you won't find a T206 or a T215 in that pack. Probably more like this:

[rdwyer]

The pack is opened. Wouldn't take the chance myself, because the foil could've been opened and refolded. Maybe Jon can chime in, but I would think that the packs were issued over many years here and there.

[Jeffrompa]

Thought it was a bit of a gamble also . If it's a baseball card well worth it .

[steve B]

Apparently the distribution was fairly wide for such an uncommon brand. I bought a pack outer sleeve since it's as close as I'll probably get. Mine is from Holland and has their tax stamp. I'm not sure about the year, but it's a neat item with interesting graphics.

Steve B

[1880nonsports]

As there are VERY few surviving DUPLICATES of the Pirate baseball cards after accounting for the only known set (90+ cards sold for about 10,000. each) - and no proof has ever been offered with regard to them actually being distributed - it seems fairly easy to conclude not a single one ever made it's way into a pack. To begin with the window in which these cards (and most cards) were produced and distributed was small. Even if one was able to tie the tax stamp and cancel to the proper verified date of insertion - my guess is that the pack would likely be marked differently in some manner to differentiate it as the intent was supposedly our boys overseas.
For me it's all moot as the value is little if a pack shows ANY evidence that it might at any time have been opened regardless of the intent or if it's just possible based on the physical condition. If a pack is SEALED - the value is in the sizzle and not the steak. The mystery is what it's all about. If you open it the value is in whatever is or isn't in there. While one can't discount scarcity and condition, value is often dependent on the attributional characteristics like stamping, configuration, factory/district information. They define the relationship between product and manufacture - those that most accurately reflect that - the smallest leap of faith - tend to get the bigger bucks.

no guarantees whether written or implied.

However

If someone could show me visual and verifiable proof of a pirate baseball card being pulled from a pack

I'll buy and eat it

and the next net54 dinner is on me. Seriously.........

[1880nonsports]

Richard I wasn't aware that Pirate cigarettes were distributed here? I probably should revisit the big auction or perhaps Lipset's book? I don't really follow this subject anymore although I try and pickup information and a pack or two when I can - where did you hear that? Hard to figure I would have forgotten that but anything is possible.

[Sean1125]

Was my pack that sold... Unsure as to a card.