Scam Question

[yanks12025]

I'll try to make this quick.

Back in 2008 I found a item on craigslist. I called the guy and we agreed on $600. He lived in Florida and I lived in NY, I sent a USPS money order for the item. He was suppose to get it on Saturday but didn't sign for it. That Saturday night I found out a collector who lived in Florida went and bought the item in person. So long story short the guy kept my money and obviously never sent me the item. I emailed local PD and stuff but they didn't care. So I totally forgot about it.

Well today for some reason it got on my mind and made me angry. So I start looking for him again. I looked thru google, facebook,etc. I believe I found the guy and his facebook. The facebook has the SAME email that we first talked thru back in 2008. So has to be the same guy right??? So I wrote him on facebook and here's what he had to say...


Hello Mr. ***s,
I’m sure you don’t remember me but I remember you! You scammed/ripped me off of $600 for a Joe DiMaggio bat I was buying from you in 2008. I sent you a USPS money order thru the mail. But you decided to sell the bat to another collector and instead of returning my money you decided to keep it without providing me the goods. I have never forgotten about you STEALING from me. But now that I have moved to Florida recently, I have decided I’m finally going to take action against you. Luckily for you there’s still time that I can file a lawsuit against you and bring you to court! Also because you scammed me thru the mail and dealing with a USPS money order, that might count as mail fraud (federal crime but I’ll leave that up to the court). I will be going to the local police here soon with the police report I had filled out and filed back in 2008 and bringing charges to you.
And what I find sad is it looks like you have a good business going with growing ghost peppers and also your pool service. But I guess your coworkers/business partner and clients will have to see the type of person you’re and that steal from others. All I want is my money back… I believe that people can make honest mistakes and maybe times were hard in 2008 for you. But it doesn't give you the right to steal from others. We can end this just by returning my money! I look forward to hearing back from you soon, if not I will be going to the local police and moving forward with a lawsuit against you.
29 minutes ago"

"hey lewis i have no ideal wat u r talking about and im really shocked that someone would threaten someone they dont even know i feel for yea and all but u have the wrong Ron Elkins ...Im sure u look little further and u will see there are a few Elkins here n florida i do hope u look further .if u do slander my business then we will for sure be in court and i 1st adivise u to see just how easy here n florida i can take u to court for slander on a business.I do hope we dont have to go there but it will be your choice,Sorry for your bad ordeal and all"

How come the email on your facebook is the same email that we talked to years ago, *******@yahoo.comHave you ever lived in Daytona beach??


"hey brock well i dont know im nto into comps but i just got this address mmmmm 4 yrs ago i do feel for u sir but im nto the guy you are looking for i can assure u that,you know there is another Ron Elkins over in a town called yankee town couse i almost got there insurence check about 10 yrs ago here"

no we go to daytona at times and at events but no sir


Me asking

"If I may ask you another question...You say you got this email 4 years ago... Yet if you do a simple google search of it, it shows a online dating site showing your picture with that email from 2008

write me here so we can talk get to know ech other
www.datehookup.com"

His reply
"hang on let me check this out ...i dont know wat u r talking about so let me look at this
wow i have no ideal wat that is brock but im going to find out thanks for wat its worth (reason why i dont care for comps)"

What you guys think? I know it was stupid to send a money order. I don't live in Florida or plan on filing a lawsuit. Was trying to see if maybe someone would own up and admit what they did.

[Buythatcard]

I wouldn't have waited 6 years to chase after this guy. I would have done it the day it happened.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

I wouldn't have waited 6 years to chase after this guy. I would have done it the day it happened.

+ 1

Let it go. It was $600 6 years ago. It sucks, but it will be way more trouble than its worth and you will never see that money again either way.

[yanks12025]

I know I'm not getting my money back... But I also did try 6 years ago but Daytona police didn't care.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

I know I'm not getting my money back.

Then what's the point?

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by conor912

Then what's the point?

The point to find out who did it and then tells others so they know the type of person he is. If it is this guy on facebook and he's currently running a good business his clients should know that he likes to steal from people.

Wouldn't you want to know if someone you buy from stole from others?

[jcmtiger]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

I know I'm not getting my money back... But I also did try 6 years ago but Daytona police didn't care.

Brock, keep trying. I bought a fake Cobb on ebay. Could not get the buyer to budge and refund my money. 7 years later, yes 7 years later he won a card in one of my auctions. With lots of help from Leon and NET54 I finally received my refund.

Joe

[bnorth]

I have no idea how facebook really works so please bear with me. Does this conversation with the scammer show up so anybody can see it? If so this is the best post I have seen in a while because all his friends are harassing him about scamming you and the dating site.

[7nohitter]

This is interesting...clearly you caught the guy in a lie....follow up with it....What did the Daytona police say?

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by 7nohitter

This is interesting...clearly you caught the guy in a lie....follow up with it....What did the Daytona police say?

I was told by another member Florida law is actually only 5 years. They just never returned my call when I called the PD 6 years ago. I know I'm not getting my money back but I wanted to find the guy and let people he knows in life know who he really is.

I believe it is the same guy but based on background checks it does seem to be several people with the same name. So maybe he is telling the truth and maybe someone stole his email or something. I'm sure he's just lying though.

[howard38]

Keep after him. Make him squirm.

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I have no idea how facebook really works so please bear with me. Does this conversation with the scammer show up so anybody can see it? If so this is the best post I have seen in a while because all his friends are harassing him about scamming you and the dating site.

No ben.. It is a private conversation, so only him and me can see it..

[DHogan]

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

I wouldn't have waited 6 years to chase after this guy. I would have done it the day it happened.

+1. $600.00 stolen is a big deal any time.

[johnmh71]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

I'll try to make this quick.

Back in 2008 I found a item on craigslist.

That was all I needed to read.

[Pete Pyro]

Give me $20 and I'll kneecap him. Not for the money, but due to the fact that his grammar is so terrible it makes me kneecappin' angry. The $20 is just for gas.


* The previous statement is intended solely for entertainment purposes.

[Fuddjcal]

[QUOTE=Pete Pyro;1247025]Give me $20 and I'll kneecap him. Not for the money, but due to the fact that his grammar is so terrible it makes me kneecappin' angry. The $20 is just for gas.

I love the knee cap maneuver!

* The previous statement is intended solely for entertainment purposes.[/QUOT

[yanks12025]

So I ended up posting on his company facebook saying how this guy stole my money back in 2008 and that I have proof yet he continues to deny it.

He remove it pretty much right away and then sent this message.

"ok brock i talked to the state attorneys office yesterday and sent them the messages u sent me and i will now press charges against u for blackmailing a company for money she even told me u r now breaking the law and i can press charges against u,you can not blackmail a business for money as u did and we do have a message with u putting it that way,she ask me to wait for u to slander my son's buisness as u just did so 1st thing tomorrow i will b sending her copy of wat u just did and we will see u n court buddy,".

I bet I never hear from him or his so called lawyer.

[thecatspajamas]

A good lawyer knows the difference between slander and libel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEWhAQVfNew

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

So I ended up posting on his company facebook saying how this guy stole my money back in 2008 and that I have proof yet he continues to deny it.

He remove it pretty much right away and then sent this message.

"ok brock i talked to the state attorneys office yesterday and sent them the messages u sent me and i will now press charges against u for blackmailing a company for money she even told me u r now breaking the law and i can press charges against u,you can not blackmail a business for money as u did and we do have a message with u putting it that way,she ask me to wait for u to slander my son's buisness as u just did so 1st thing tomorrow i will b sending her copy of wat u just did and we will see u n court buddy,".

I bet I never hear from him or his so called lawyer.

Having worked as a prosecutor I can tell you that you will probably have to wait a month or so to find out.

Time to let this one go.

[slidekellyslide]

The guy got caught...no way he went to the Florida AG.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

So I ended up posting on his company facebook saying how this guy stole my money back in 2008 and that I have proof yet he continues to deny it.

He remove it pretty much right away and then sent this message.

"ok brock i talked to the state attorneys office yesterday and sent them the messages u sent me and i will now press charges against u for blackmailing a company for money she even told me u r now breaking the law and i can press charges against u,you can not blackmail a business for money as u did and we do have a message with u putting it that way,she ask me to wait for u to slander my son's buisness as u just did so 1st thing tomorrow i will b sending her copy of wat u just did and we will see u n court buddy,".

I bet I never hear from him or his so called lawyer.

I for one am glad you did this to the rip off artist. I think you have him red handed. I think you should contact an attorney and check on the statute of limitations and beat the wise ass to the punch if at all possible. If the butt wad sues you, (which the 8th grader won't) I'd counter sue the stuffing out of him. Good luck

[Pete Pyro]

Is this not an obvious scare tactic by a less-than-intelligent guy?

Am I the only one who laughed at the idea of a lawsuit from a facebook post?

[thecatspajamas]

What percentage of the time has a ne'er-do-well who has been caught threatened legal action and actually followed through with it? My guess would be low single-digits.

[yanks12025]

Sadly Florida law is only 5 years. I know I won't hear a word back from him.

[lug-nut]

not to steal your thread but a few years back i bought a gehrig card off of ebay for $1200, paying with cashier's check it was cashed right away and not hearing back for almost two weeks i contacted the seller, after several ignored emails i decided to file out a police report (i worked there so i had blanks) and send it to him stating i'd turn it in if i didnt hear from him...

long story short, the wife (supposed wife) said he died and can she send me some stuff to make up for it. i was dumb and said yes. she sent me a bunch of modern baseball collectibles (mostly junk) and a few late year cards of mantle, aaron, no cash....i had to sell off everything over 3-4 months and recooped about 75% of my $1200.

i wasn't happy but i learned my lesson. i dont believe the guy died, but i do believe i scared him