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California Photographer CDV - Late 1870s?
You guys did so good on the tintype, what are thoughts on the age of this one....
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Leon according to the ring bat 1880s. Can u read the label on the bat
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Thanks Kevin. No, I can't read the label on the bat even with a huge scan. I thought maybe late 1870s because of the bibs, but I got this from Scott F. and I think (but am not sure) he had it listed as 1880. Maybe circa 1880 would be good?
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According to this website in the late 1870's/early 1880's, the photographer for MH Grant studios in Eureka, California was Amassa Flaglor.
https://library.humboldt.edu/humco/h...ricsonNews.htm Here's Flaglor bio: http://books.google.com/books?id=Nne...page&q&f=false Seems Flaglor was in Eureka 1871-1880, then moved to San Francisco. Don't find any record of MH Grant studios after 1882 in Eureka. But records are incomplete. Last edited by pariah1107; 02-20-2014 at 09:19 AM. |
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c1880 is probably as good as you can get...could certainly be late 1870s, but almost certainly is not later than 1885. I have had photos of players in bib uniforms as late as the 1890s, but this certainly looks circa 1880.
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Went to Library of Congress Newspaper Archives and searched "Eureka Baseball", years 1875-1885. There are seven articles on the Eureka Baseball Club, all from a Sacramento paper, all in 1883:
Here's one: http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1 Strange there were no articles pre-1883, but Dan's right ca. 1880 is probably as close as possible. It's a great looking image. Hope that helps, enjoy the rest of National Love Your Pet Day. |
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I try to start by looking at the qualities of the photo and mount first, then key on the other stuff as support for my first gut reaction - you don't want a bib, ring bat or pillbox hat clouding your judgement. Attaching an age to an old photos is often based on a lot of stuff going on in your brain at a less conscious level - hard to put your finger on it, but you have a gut feel based on the sum of all the knowledge you've accumulated and pieces you've seen. When I see people assertively state that something's from say, 1880, and I have a strong feeling that it's more like 1900, I should probably just keep my opinion to myself - without 'proof', it's all just one collector's knowledge and experience vs another's. I do remember getting bamboozled by a mount that I was certain was circa 1905, and then I found one from the 1890's in my own collection that could be definitively dated to that period. There are always opportunities to learn.
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If I had to pick a decade, I'd pick 1870s. It looks 1870s. The photo style and uniforms are 1870s-stye, which of course doesn't mean it couldn't be say 1880 or 1881.
Last edited by drcy; 02-20-2014 at 11:01 AM. |
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I'll say 1880-85.
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Leon- I've only seen one other baseball cdv from California. Very nice pick up.
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Shameless plug is it will be in our next auction opening in a few days....Good luck if anyone goes for it. I already have one cdv for my collection besides my Peck and Snyder so don't really need another. And the one I speak of is the one I unfortunately won out from under you on the bay.
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