Piedmonts are getting expensive.

[Brian Van Horn]

High quality, but........

http://www.ebay.com/itm/T206-Piedmon...item3cdb18ed6e

[ullmandds]

But it's the best of the best!

[tiger8mush]

Hard to imagine a card being inserted into a pack of cigarettes which is then boxed & loaded & shipped in a rickety truck/train, placed onto a convenient store shelf by a stock boy, handled by a customer, opened by a smoker, the card tossed aside and likely handled by a kid, all in the cards first couple months of existence and looking anything close to as mint as that card looks. Not to mention surviving the NEXT 100 years.

[ullmandds]

Agreed...and after pulling the card from the pack you'd have to handle it with kid gloves and place it somewhere safe and virtually never touch it again for 100 years? What are the odds???

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

Hard to imagine a card being inserted into a pack of cigarettes which is then boxed & loaded & shipped in a rickety truck/train, placed onto a convenient store shelf by a stock boy, handled by a customer, opened by a smoker, the card tossed aside and likely handled by a kid, all in the cards first couple months of existence and looking anything close to as mint as that card looks. Not to mention surviving the NEXT 100 years.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

Hard to imagine a card being inserted into a pack of cigarettes which is then boxed & loaded & shipped in a rickety truck/train, placed onto a convenient store shelf by a stock boy, handled by a customer, opened by a smoker, the card tossed aside and likely handled by a kid, all in the cards first couple months of existence and looking anything close to as mint as that card looks. Not to mention surviving the NEXT 100 years.

spot on. no effing way. this is exactly why i don't buy anything pre-war above EX.

[brewing]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

Hard to imagine a card being inserted into a pack of cigarettes which is then boxed & loaded & shipped in a rickety truck/train, placed onto a convenient store shelf by a stock boy, handled by a customer, opened by a smoker, the card tossed aside and likely handled by a kid, all in the cards first couple months of existence and looking anything close to as mint as that card looks. Not to mention surviving the NEXT 100 years.

I can easily imagine a card being placed in a book shortly after being pulled from a pack and not being removed from the book for 80 years.



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[gregr2]

So then what's the deal, is it fake?

[ullmandds]

not fake...likely enhanced over the years.

[thehoodedcoder]

he is proclaiming highest graded copy. he might be able to get that price. problem is there are many cards that are not in the pop charts.

some piedmont cards bring higher premiums than others, believe it or not.

kevin

[gregr2]

Thanks guys, always learning.

[ValKehl]

And, it's NOT even a Factory 42, although this is hard to discern due to the blurry scan. This eBay seller really needs to spend a few $$ on a scanner with a CCD scanning element, if he hopes to sell graded cards at inflated prices.
Val

[freakhappy]

As hard as it would be to believe, I'm sure there were some people that kept them in nice condition...rare, but possible.

There were several cig packs that were not opened in the early 1900's either...some of these could have been opened a few/several decades later by a collector and then stored away for safe keeping. A lot of possibilities here...

[wazoo]

Originally Posted by freakhappy

As hard as it would be to believe, I'm sure there were some people that kept them in nice condition...rare, but possible.

There were several cig packs that were not opened in the early 1900's either...some of these could have been opened a few/several decades later by a collector and then stored away for safe keeping. A lot of possibilities here...

I totally agree with you Mike.

[ullmandds]

I agree...it is definitely "possible"...just not likely. I mean how many t206's are there graded nm-mt or better?

[thehoodedcoder]

i think the population is reflective. there are only a handfull to a few dozen of 6+ or 7+ of each card.

if there are a million t206s in total, you think its absurd for there to be a few thousand in superb condition? not after the 20s and the giant depression hoarding.

kevin

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I agree...it is definitely "possible"...just not likely. I mean how many t206's are there graded nm-mt or better?

I hear ya, Pete...that's why I used "rare" in my post

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I agree...it is definitely "possible"...just not likely. I mean how many t206's are there graded nm-mt or better?

I'm not sure Pete, but doesn't one member here own them all?

[steve B]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I agree...it is definitely "possible"...just not likely. I mean how many t206's are there graded nm-mt or better?

PSA 161,458 graded
grade how many
10 13
9 267
8.5 49
8 2356
9Q 41
8Q 127
total 2853 =1.7-1.8%

SGC 94,730 graded

grade how many
100 0
98 (10) 1
96 (9) 18
92 (8.5) 28
88 (8) 146
total 193 = 0.2 %

Interesting numbers. I'm not sure I'd say SGC is that much tougher on the high end. It's more likely that there are very few T206s that are NM/Mt left ungraded.

Steve B

[gregr2]

How are these cards enhanced? And why isn't this recognized by authenticators?

[ullmandds]

Personally, I think the majority of ultra high grade pre WWI cards were at some point trimmed down from their original size...imperceptible for whatever reason to the graders?

[HRBAKER]

Haters.