John Titus-Itus

[JohnP0621]

Whats Up with the T206 John Titus. Did everyone get the John Titus-Itus Flu.
Recent sales of this card have soared in price. Besides the Great Stache on this card ,I dont think that it is a hard card to find. I purchased a PSA 4 around a year ago for under $90.00. Recent Ebay sales are as follows::eek

PSA-1 $92.99
PSA-3 $237.06
PSA-3 $289.99
PSA-4 $353.00
PSA-5 $549.99
PSA-6 $999.99.

Also all BIN Prices on EBAY are Way Too High. Am I missing Something?
Maybe I should Grow a Big Stache and Go Ask My Boss for a Raise.

Happy New Year!!
John P

[z28jd]

Someone has a hoard of them we've been told. It's probably not more rare than most commons, just the amount that come up for sale is much lesser than your average common card.

[DerekMichael]

I would love to get a Titus in a PSA 4 for $90. You are a lucky man!

[CMIZ5290]

This topic, like many others, has been discussed numerous times. First of all, it is an extremely tough common in high grade (6 or higher). As far as the supposed hoarder on Net54 of these cards, I have never been able to confirm that. In addition to the lower pops, I really believe the fact that he is the only "moustached" player in the set also plays a big factor. There are many other tough commons ( Reulbach glove, Powers, Schulte front, Ames hands at chest, Donlin fielding, etc..) that are somewhat similar to this card in value....

[CMIZ5290]

Also, in respect to the theory of the only player with a moustache, the uniqueness definitely adds to the value. For example, the very few horizontal poses bring a huge premium. For the most part, their populations are fairly decent, but because there are only a handful, price is driven up....JMO

[milkit1]

I think in light of these recent prices that everyone should just calm down, breathe a little, and take a little break. $100 for a John Titus PSA 1 is pretty ridiculous.

[bbsports]

The post you listed John is a big concern. It seems that certain players get hoarded & have now become overpriced like the Titus card because he is the only T206 player that has a moustache. Hey Kevin, the other cards you mention in your thread are either short prints or are from the elate 8 group. Titus does not fall in either of these groups. The concern here is that you can hoard any card & then it becomes overpriced? I don't think this is good for the hobby, only for the collectors that are hoarding them.

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by bbsports

The post you listed John is a big concern. It seems that certain players get hoarded & have now become overpriced like the Titus card because he is the only T206 player that has a moustache. Hey Kevin, the other cards you mention in your thread are either short prints or are from the elate 8 group. Titus does not fall in either of these groups. The concern here is that you can hoard any card & then it becomes overpriced? I don't think this is good for the hobby, only for the collectors that are hoarding them.

If they are actually collecting them as opposed to hoarding them to run up value, then I'd disagree and say it is hurting them the most because the price they are paying keeps going up.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by z28jd

If they are actually collecting them as opposed to hoarding them to run up value, then I'd disagree and say it is hurting them the most because the price they are paying keeps going up.

Beckett had article about 8 years ago describing how one collector's hoarde of Prince Fielder auto RC (Upper Deck) had driven up the value. The collector had quite an influence. Great read if you can find the article.

[soccersaver97]

Dang, I wish I saw this thread yesterday when I could have picked up a Titus for $30 that would have been a PSA 4 or 5 when graded

[The Nasty Nati]

Ha well I realize this topic has been beaten to death but I'm more curious about when specifically (like in the 80's, 90's, etc.), did this card start to really gain popularity with collectors.

Also, has anyone noticed a trend with any other T206 cards where a common seems to be asking for higher and higher prices? For example, the Pelty Horizontal has been surging in prices lately, any others?

[VoodooChild]

Ok, I'll admit that I had the Titus-itus. The PSA 3 $237.06 was me. I think I bought it out of spite/frustration. Whatever, it's only money and cards are worth what somebody is willing to pay.

The post from a while back if I remember correctly, said that he was hoarding them for some "special project". To me that could mean some sort of long term/lifetime commitment. Who knows if those cards will ever become available. If somebody owns 2/3rds (just a guess) of a card and they will never see the light of day, wouldn't the remaining 1/3 be considered rare? If not, there are worse things I could do than overpay for a baseball card.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by bbsports

The post you listed John is a big concern. It seems that certain players get hoarded & have now become overpriced like the Titus card because he is the only T206 player that has a moustache. Hey Kevin, the other cards you mention in your thread are either short prints or are from the elate 8 group. Titus does not fall in either of these groups. The concern here is that you can hoard any card & then it becomes overpriced? I don't think this is good for the hobby, only for the collectors that are hoarding them.

Yes, you are exactly correct about the other cards. What I was referring to specifically was the population reports. Per PSA, there are only 16-PSA 6's, 3-PSA 7's, 1-PSA 7.5, and only 1-PSA 8 for Titus. That is a very low population, which is going to account for some of the premium it brings. Maybe the lower grades are more in line with other commons, I will definitely check.... I still believe most of it is being the only player in the set with the unique moustache. I would kill to find this card in a 7 or higher and then sell my 6.....

[JohnP0621]

Kevin,
I looked up the winning bidder on the last 8 Titus that sold on Ebay and I believe that 6 were purchased by the same bidder. This does not include BIN .
Also I would love to own a Titus PSA 6 but it is out of my price range ,also my collection is mostly PSA-3 or 4 with a few 5. I agree with you that high Grade examples of this card PSA 6 or better are Tough with Low Pops and go for a premium but that goes for Most T206 . I am only talking about low grade cards PSA/SGC 1-5 . These prices have Sky Rocked lately.Just my Opinion.


Regards
John P

[Kawika]

Betcha The Hoarder doesn't have a Wonka McTitus.

[vintagechris]

Originally Posted by bbsports

The post you listed John is a big concern. It seems that certain players get hoarded & have now become overpriced like the Titus card because he is the only T206 player that has a moustache. Hey Kevin, the other cards you mention in your thread are either short prints or are from the elate 8 group. Titus does not fall in either of these groups. The concern here is that you can hoard any card & then it becomes overpriced? I don't think this is good for the hobby, only for the collectors that are hoarding them.

Funny thing is, I was reading an old SCD a few weeks ago, I think from the 70's and one of the writers was saying the same thing. He was worried about people hoarding and making it more difficult for others to get certain cards.

It's interesting reading those old pubs, some things never seem to change.

[t206fix]

Hoarding sucks! So whoever is hoarding those Red Hindus, Lenox's and P42's, please release them to me!

Or we can just let people collect whatever they want to collect...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by vintagechris

........

It's interesting reading those old pubs, some things never seem to change.

It seems every time I post an old publication on the board we are reminded of this. Old sayings are old sayings for a reason too .

as for Titus...it's the mustache!!

[npa589]

I listed a bunch of cards this past week, so I employed my sister for a day to help scan the cards. Funny enough, she made a comment and asked a question about 1 card, and 1 card only out of the 260+ T206s she scanned, and it was the Titus. Her comment was: "This one just seems different." --- followed by "Was there a specific time frame when these were all produced, or was it over the course of 20 years?" I smiled when I asked for clarification as to the reason for her question, and her response was "The mustache..."

[glynparson]

Many of us grew up in the 1980s when purchasing or trading for multiples of our favorites was the norm, because I have switched to vintage but still collect like I did as a kid I am offended that I would be criticized and harshly for doing so. I am not a set guy I just buy cards I like I don't care if I have 1 or 75 if I like the card and the price I buy it. It's how I enjoy collecting too bad if people like Tony don't like it.

[slipk1068]

Originally Posted by glynparson

Many of us grew up in the 1980s when purchasing or trading for multiples of our favorites was the norm, because I have switched to vintage but still collect like I did as a kid I am offended that I would be criticized and harshly for doing so. I am not a set guy I just buy cards I like I don't care if I have 1 or 75 if I like the card and the price I buy it. It's how I enjoy collecting too bad if people like Tony don't like it.

I collect what I like. Don't really care if I have it or not. I see it as future trade bait.

I do think Tony was joking he wants all those Red Hindu's and Piedmont 42's

[slipk1068]

OOPS you meant Tony Q not Tony D my mistake.

3 cards up for auction. T206 commons graded SGC 5. 2 have a current bid of $100 and 1 has a current bid of $70. Assuming I like the eye appeal equally well, I am bidding on the $70 card whether or not I already own it.

[4815162342]

I'm thinking about hoarding 1988 Donruss Mike LaValliere cards.

[GoldenAge50s]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

I'm thinking about hoarding 1988 Donruss Mike LaValliere cards.

I KNOW I can help you out w/ that!

[freakhappy]

Thanks for the bio, nati...I enjoyed reading about Titus!


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