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Old 12-24-2013, 04:24 AM
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I just posted an update on Frank's Monster Number thread and it got me to thinking. I have a handful of "Commons" to go in addition to a few Southern Leaguers and a pile of HOF guys. This is not a misplaced BST, but merely a question. In what freakin' universe are these guys common?

55bv. George Brown (Browne) (Washington)
115bv. Bill Dahlen (Brooklyn)
122bv. Ray Demmitt (St. Louis)
143av. Joe Doyle (NY Nat'l Hands Above Head)
143b. Joe Doyle (NY Hands Above Head)
155bv. Kid Elberfeld (Washington) (Portrait)
249av. Red Kleinow (Boston)
285av. Carl Lundgren (Chicago)
287av. Sherry Magie (Magee)
287b. Sherry Magee (portrait)
355bv. Bill O'Hara (St. Louis)
373. Barney Pelty (Horizontal Photo)
438bv. Frank Smith (Chicago & Boston)

Don't you guys think that there needs to be an additional designation besides HOF/SL/Common? or at least a Roger Maris-esque "*" on the checklist?
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Old 12-24-2013, 07:21 AM
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The "SP" designation is widely used to denote cards that were printed in lesser quantities. Most of the cards on your list would certainly qualify. I can't recall ever seeing that in any T206 discussions.
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Old 12-24-2013, 08:00 AM
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Mike I think the Doyle (NY hands above head) is a common but was effected
by Fritsch hoarding them. The Titus is becoming a tuff common for a similar
reason. I will probably never own one because I will never pay the stupid
prices they are bringing. I will likely own a Magie before I own a Titus.
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Old 12-24-2013, 08:24 AM
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Guys, I was making reference to the checklist that I am working from. I wish I could recall where I snagged it from.

There are a few others that could be on the list, Bull Durham, both Merkles, all of the Hal Chase cards etc.

The cards all have a story as to WHY they carry a premium added. That is not in question.

I am imagining some poor Newbie looking at the list and seeing them as "common".

Personally, I think a common price multiplier could be implemented. Pick a price. For the sake of this statement, let's say that a "true" common can be had for $25. A Fred Merkle might be considered a 2X common, a Black Sox Chick perhaps a 2.5X or even a 3X common. It would get insane with the Doyle or the Magie, though

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I do understand what you are saying but the list you have are not listed as
commons in most price guides. Take SMR for example they group all the commons at one price for a certain grade but all the cards on your list have there own listing with higher prices with the exception of Doyle (NY) ,Pelty
and Magee.
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Mike,
I am in the same boat with you as what I have left is primarily Hall of famers, Southern Leaguers and the uncommon commons. I am at 417 but expect slow going from here on. With the exception of Magee, every card you listed is on my wantlist, too.

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Old 12-24-2013, 09:28 AM
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I do understand what you are saying but the list you have are not listed as
commons in most price guides. Take SMR for example they group all the commons at one price for a certain grade but all the cards on your list have there own listing with higher prices with the exception of Doyle (NY) ,Pelty
and Magee.
Pat, Yes I know that there are places where the true values are indicated. Heck, a quick check of Completed Sales on the 'Bay or previous actions at various auction houses would quickly educate a Newbie. I think my original post was more a post out of frustration. I have burned through all of the "easy" guys and the 76 remaining are going to get expensive. I think it is safe to say the a Grant (Portrait) won't get the job done for any of them.
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