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Old 10-15-2013, 01:53 PM
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Default Implications of "cleaning up the hobby?"

We all bitch(atleast some of us do...)...about the corruption in the hobby...the deceptive bidding practices of auction houses/ebay...the alteration of cards...the perceived inconsistency of TPGrading services.

And many of us long for a "cleaning up of the hobby"...I know I do!

What would be potential implications on our collections as a result of a "cleaning up of the hobby?"

Would our collections become worth less...more? Would more people enter the hobby? Would people leave?

Please discuss!

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Old 10-15-2013, 01:59 PM
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Probably more new people in the hobby ... more people interrested into high grade card...

I personnaly never collected high grade card because of the price and i always be sceptic about 100 years old card graded 7 8 or 9 .... Always too nervous to enter into the high grade world.

Collection be worth less... not sure.. For me no beacause i don t have high grade card... i collect only VG, VG-EX card ...

But i have no idea of how the cleaning can be made.
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Old 10-15-2013, 02:02 PM
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So you'd think more people would enter the hobby because it would be perceived as "safer"...so would this add more competition for quality pieces hence driving up prices? IF so...then auction houses wouldn't have to "cheat" and "steal" from us...as they'd be making more $$$ themselves as a result of being honest...hmmm...novel idea?
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Prices would plummet and casual collectors would exit the hobby if we experienced a "clensing period" across the board. As much as I hate to admit it, I think the fraudsters, the scandals, the jerks, the AH's, the shill bidding and the forgers all play a necessary role in our delicate ecosystem.

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It IS a delicate ecosystem...this hobby...isn't it!!!!!

I'm starting to feel like that dude who used to be on here who was eventually limited to 10 posts/day...responding to everyones' posts!!!!

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It IS a delicate ecosystem...this hobby...isn't it!!!!!

I'm starting to feel like that dude who used to be on here who was eventually limited to 10 posts/day...responding to everyones' posts!!!!
Don't worry about it Pete. You will never catch me and probably not Barry either, as far as number of posts go.
As for cleansing the hobby.... It would be great and I think it is better today than it has been in the last 10-15 yrs. Status quo though regardless of cleansing or not, imo...
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Integrity and greed are a huge issue in the hobby. To dump money into speculation is a big gamble. Even graders could be wrong.
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I think it would draw collectors into (or back into) the hobby. I think it would also increase the value of our cards as the demand would exceed the supply.
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Are we assuming that there would be legal preceding's, jail sentences, closing of a couple AH's? I am assuming there are more doings out there that just Mastro and the others indicted.

Those cards that were heavily shilled seems like they would realize a new price, I would assume lower. I could see the attention brought from legal issues scarring people away. I could see it attract others with a sense of security.

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I would have to assume a "cleaning" up of the hobby would result in a dramatic change of the existing landscape...people doing jail time...paying heavy fines...potentially a change in the existing grading companies...maybe bring new players in all categories.
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I would have to assume a "cleaning" up of the hobby would result in a dramatic change of the existing landscape...people doing jail time...paying heavy fines...potentially a change in the existing grading companies...maybe bring new players in all categories.
I just don't see all of that happening - it took the biggest card in the hobby to get Mastro, and the results of that aren't going to clean up things across the board.

A lot more people would have to go down to significantly affect change like you describe above, and that is going to be very hard to prove IMO.
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c'mon chris...this is hypothetical!
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