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Old 08-16-2013, 12:56 AM
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Default Another ebay Scumbag!!!!!!!

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I recently won this card on ebay.

The picture on the left is what the seller had in his auction description. Pretty nicely centered with ridiculously sharp corners. You could even 'supersize' the image and it still looked perfect.

The photo on the right is my scan of the card I received in the mail today. This is the same freakin' card!!!!!!!! The only 'touch-ups' I did were auto tone, contrast and color in Photoshop to sharpen the scan.

Can you believe the bullshit manipulation by this scumbag seller??!! He:
A) Made each corner as sharp as a tack!
B) Made the entire outside area of the card as white as snow!
C) Completely eliminated the rough cut across the top to make it as straight as an arrow!
D) And if you look at the bottom left corner of the actual card, you can see he extended the entire left side of the card in his picture to make it appear like it was centered much better!!!!
E) I won't even mention how he straightened out the bottom, too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God am I pissed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

And all this bullshit for less than a $5 card!!!!

I'll hold out exposing this dick until I tell him to go f*** himself via ebay. He better do the right thing, f***ing douchebag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:45 AM
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Who was the seller? Can you link the ebay listing for us?
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Old 08-16-2013, 07:20 AM
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That's messed up. Seems like a lot of work for 5 bucks.
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Old 08-16-2013, 07:28 AM
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I'm guessing he just "borrowed" a scan of a nice card. Not cool.
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Old 08-16-2013, 07:32 AM
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Way too much trouble to photoshop up a card for a $5 sale...

probably swapped out the card (either on purpose or by mistake)...
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Old 08-16-2013, 07:43 AM
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Default Doctored Scan

Picking up on the last post, Daren---do you think he was able to manipulate his scan that much or just used the scan of a better card. There was a thread on pre war some time back showing examples of how the same card can be better displayed by scanning techniques, but this would be "impressive" manipulation of a scan. I wonder why anyone would bother on a fairly low $ card since they would know the end result is likely to be a refund and a negative .

We had this card in an earlier thread asking what was Tom doing ?

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Old 08-16-2013, 08:33 AM
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No F bombs please.....
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:26 AM
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I recently won this card on ebay.

The picture on the left is what the seller had in his auction description. Pretty nicely centered with ridiculously sharp corners. You could even 'supersize' the image and it still looked perfect.

The photo on the right is my scan of the card I received in the mail today. This is the same freakin' card!!!!!!!! The only 'touch-ups' I did were auto tone, contrast and color in Photoshop to sharpen the scan.

Can you believe the bullshit manipulation by this scumbag seller??!! He:
A) Made each corner as sharp as a tack!
B) Made the entire outside area of the card as white as snow!
C) Completely eliminated the rough cut across the top to make it as straight as an arrow!
D) And if you look at the bottom left corner of the actual card, you can see he extended the entire left side of the card in his picture to make it appear like it was centered much better!!!!
E) I won't even mention how he straightened out the bottom, too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God am I pissed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

And all this bullshit for less than a $5 card!!!!

I'll hold out exposing this dick until I tell him to go f*** himself via ebay. He better do the right thing, f***ing douchebag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you believe that the card he sent you (card on right) is the same card as you show on the left?

It is not the same card...you were the victim of a classic bait & switch...or a mistake...there are prints dots to the right of Seaver's glove and below his cap on the card on the left, but not on the card on the right. If he was to put so much effort into enhancing the image on the left, why would he add print defects?

Why do you think that this is the same card? Or are you playing a joke on us?
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:55 AM
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Looks like this is the card in the first scan.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-Topps-T...item4175adefe6


Looks like he sent you a replacement card or grabbed the wrong one off the pile. I would just contact him and see what happens. Maybe he'll send you the right card, or just give you your money back without having to return.
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Old 08-16-2013, 11:29 AM
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that he grabbed the wrong card...

We all make mistakes... this gent with 100% positive feedback could very well have done just that in sending you the wrong card...

I would hold off on exposing him until he responds to your replacement/refund request...

After all, I am sure he is not going to compromise his solid ebay reputation for a $5.00 transaction...

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Old 08-16-2013, 11:33 AM
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File an "Item not as Received" dispute with Ebay and explain the situation. You should be covered under their Buyers Protection Program if the seller doesn't realize their mistake.
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Old 08-16-2013, 12:11 PM
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That's what I think happened. Everybody else that bought from him seemed happy. I'm not sure we sould always assume dishonesty, especially in a public forum like this one, when something like this happens.
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:15 PM
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Ebay has this stupid option of adding a stock photo from their database. I would bet that is what happened here. Actually it has become semi automatic and you have to manually remove before listing, so it easy to miss. It happened to me but in the opposite way; the stock photo was a beater and the card I had for sale was EX.
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:43 PM
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Listen, I don't know how to make this any clearer. The card in his scan and the card I received ARE the same card. I overlaid them and the little nuances in the corners, etc., match up perfectly. They're the same card! This wasn't an accident. Obviously, if it had been a simple mistake, I wouldn't have reacted so harshly.

This seller PURPOSELY doctored the scan. I am very skilled in photoshop and a scanned image brought into the program doesn't suddenly become perfect without a good amount of labor. It is NEVER an accident. He obviously laid the true scan of the card over a pristine white rectangle and combined the images. He's a scumbag!!!!

And those of you who say, "Why would he do this for a $5 card?" are ridiculous. First of all, he didn't know how much it would sell for. The reason he doctored it was to make it more appealing, hoping it would raise the selling price. Or, let's say he DID know it would only sell for less than 5 dollars. That makes him an even bigger scumbag. He would try to f*ck you over for 5 measly dollars?????? What a loser!!!!!! People like him make me sick!!!!!
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