Clemente Rejected by PSA Opinions/Comments?

[MooseDog]

Hi All -

Posting for a friend. My experience with Clemente sigs is weak, so I thought I'd post this one for comment. As PSA doesn't give a reason for rejecting other than "? Authenticity" he's interested in learning why. If I recall the "Clemente" resembles common clubhouse sigs, but the "Roberto" part is new to me.

Is this one:

1) A blatant forgery or fake
2) Clubhouse
3) Possibly good but there are just some things that PSA doesn't want to put their seal of approval on (as opposed to Roy Campanella rubber stamps, of course)

Thanks in advance for looking.

[earlywynnfan]

I think you forgot the pic.

Ken

[travrosty]

If they will not comment on why it failed when they are asked and show why using exemplars and point by point explanations then an authentication was not done. So you need to ask them why and if they won't tell you then they did not authenticate anything.

jorlando@collectors.com is the president of psa's email. his name is joe orlando. ask him to provide explanations on why it did not pass. if he will not give one, then no authentication was performed.

[MooseDog]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

I think you forgot the pic.
Ken

Yeah, I suppose that would help a bit...now fixed.

[GrayGhost]

Looks like a clubhouse to me.

[kengoldin]

I am not one who is good at explaining why an autograph is bad, it's just that if I look at an autograph I am familiar with, I "know" it's bad
This is really bad, just really bad.
I don't know if it matters if it was "clubhouse" or attempted forgery
I never heard the term clubhouse used on anything but on a team signed item where maybe 17 guys were around and 5 were not....never heard it used on a single signed item. This item simply was not signed by Clemente. It is off in so many ways

[HOF Auto Rookies]

I'm by no means an expert on Clemente, but this just looks awful