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So I am finally getting around to finishing the basement. As part of this, I am creating my man cave. My wife was the one who really pushed for finishing the basement. She always complained about the money I spent because it was all sitting in boxes. Now that it can be displayed, I think it will be easier for her to understand.
It's not finished yet, but I wanted to discuss whether anyone else here has done matting and framing themselves. When I lived in Maryland, for 2yrs in the late 90's, I had a play room and spent a considerable amount of money framing items. This time I felt I could try doing my own framing and keep the extra money to buy more stuff. I was inspired by someone on another website. Tools: Logan Compact Classic Mat Cutter approx $100(Cheaper on ebay) ![]() Rag mat boards (100% cotton rag-highest quality archival board) $18 per sheet 24 x 48 Frames Prices varied - Found great frames at Ollies/Kmart/Dick Blick and others Double stick tape Artists tape - Similar to masking, but used to adhere prints to mat board. Backing/Foam board. So I assembled my supplies, plus a healthy supply of snacks and beverages, and away I went. LMK what you think. 1966 Sport Magazine and 1986 AS program. Both are full magazines. ![]() ![]() Batting Sequence photos of Gehrig and Ott. Both taken just prior to 1936 WS. ![]() ![]() 1951 Calendar with Cuban league Schedule card below it. ![]() 2 newspaper centerfolds. Top one is from 1939. Bottom one is from 1937. ![]() ![]() Lou Gehrig day Ticket matted with a print I made of a Kreindler Masterpiece. ![]() ![]() Jordan cut Matted to 10x12. ![]() Mel Ott signed Carters Kittens print. It read "To Sweets and his Triplets, may they all be safe, Mel Ott" Frame is 11x14 ![]() Mel Ott signed Pic Magazine cover. Signed to Chamberlain Brown, With best Wishes, Mel Ott. Frame is 11x14 ![]() Walter Payton 8x10 ![]() 1927 Strength Mag with Lou Gehrig Cover and 1928 Mag with Ruth cover. ![]() FYI: The most expensive frame of the above was the LG Ticket frame. It was $30 at Ollie's Outlet. I'll post more tomorrow. Mark
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Wow...it all looks fantastic. Really love the Ott peices..framing really brings the collection to life and it makes a huge difference when you can appreciate it on a wall or shelf. Look forward to seeing your other peices.
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I agree with you about framing making this stuff pop. The Ott items are some of my favs, especially the Carters Kittens print. Some background for those that are interested. Carter's Ink Co is the company behind these prints. The print is entitled 'Carter's Kittens'. Carter's kittens were introduced in 1943. This artwork by Albert Staehle. This ad appeared in Life Magazine in 1944. The kitten mascot featured prominently in ads for Carter's up until the late 1950s. The original advertising print features a mother cat and her 9 technicolor kittens. Each kitten is colored in a shade of ink that was manufactured at the time by Carter's Ink Company. ![]()
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Mark, everything looks fantastic! You are absolutely right about saving money by doing the framing and matting yourself, especially on project with one and two openings in the matting. I'm still a little lazy and haven't been cutting the matting myself, but I've developed a relationship with a local framing shop and they've been cutting my matting for real cheap, and then I pick up a frame on sale from a local chain like Aaron Brothers and then put them together myself. Saves tons of money and allows you to get stuff up on the walls that much quicker. Just curious, how are you keeping your magazines secure and from moving within the frames?
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Thanks guys.
Here is another of my favs. ![]() Mike, I held the magazine in place with foam board. The Strength magazines are sunken into cutouts in a piece of foam board the size of the frame. I put another thin piece of mat board behind them to secure them in place. The Sport Mag and AS program are held in place by strips of foam board on all 4 sides of the magazines. The frame above has the original type 1 print and Sporting news book I got in a trade with Jimmy(kingofclout) along with a 1927 copy of a Police Gazette. The Gazette is complete and in a Protective Mylar(I think) bag which is also sunken into a mat board cutout. The tag sheet was already separate from the picture when I got it, so I framed it as well. Mark Oops I forgot. I changed the Matting on the Gehrig piece above. I'll have to take a new pic and post it.
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Thanks Mark! I also use strips of foam board on each side of the magazines but wanted to see if you used a different method. Seems to work pretty well and haven't had any problems with magazines moving within the frame...well, except once but I droped the darn frame and also broke the glass. Oops!!
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I have found that frames don't respond well in general to being dropped. ![]() Mark
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I think it looks better this way. I couldn't separate the pics more in the new frame as they have the original tape still intact, keeping them together.
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Wow!!!! They all look just super!!! I'm a complete novice when it comes to matting and framing, so I hope you don't think my questions are too simple. Does the matt cutter cut multiple different size cut outs in one matt? Are all of these covered with glass and if so what kind (UV protection)? Can the artist tape be removed from items (prints, etc.) safely? Don't some people use those little edge holders so nothing adheres to the item? And finally, is there some kind of reference article/book/web site for those of us just starting this kind of thing? Once again - all look professionally done to me. Thank you. Craig |
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Chuck,
Thanks. I love saving money on the framing to have it to spend on more stuff. Randall, Great job on the Hill. I might have to splurge on a circular mat cutter one day to try something like that. Craig, Does the mat cutter cut multiple different size cut outs in one matt? The mat cutter I pictured cuts only straight lines. You have to measure how far in from the edge you want to cut and then scribe all 4 sides with a pencil. There is a guide rule to help with the measurement. You then use the blade to cut the square or rectangle out. Here is the instruction video from the Logan company that makes the mat cutter I have. This explains what I was trying to describe much better. They have more advanced cutters as well. *Each cutter comes with an instructional DVD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=vxyj7YldV3c* There are other videos on the site as well. http://www.logangraphic.com/videos/ Cutting multiple openings is a little trickier. lf you want more than one opening, you have to measure where you want each hole and what size you want each one. It does take a little math, patience, and practice to get it right. I started with a bunch of single opening mats to get the hang of it first, before trying my first multiple opening mat. Are all of these covered with glass and if so what kind (UV protection)? Most of the are in glass. A few have plastic faces. While you can buy UV protective glass, I didn't. The reason for this is that, after much research, I chose to spend the extra money and install all LED lighting in the room. LED lights have no UV and give off very little heat. Also, I only have a very small window in this room, so there won't be very much ambient light coming in. If there had been incandescent, florescent, or halogen lights instead, I probably would've sprung for UV rated glass for all the framed items. Can the artist tape be removed from items (prints, etc.) safely? Don't some people use those little edge holders so nothing adheres to the item? There are many different ways to hold the pics/prints in place. The sales person at the Dick Blick store, who helped me, is a certified framer. She was the one who suggested the tape instead of the corner mounts. I think either way is fine. I had no sig problem removing tape when I had to adjust my projects. When removing the key is going very SLOWLY. And finally, is there some kind of reference article/book/web site for those of us just starting this kind of thing? I think there are books about it, but I didn't use any. I watched some videos on the manufacturer's website and a couple on you tube. This video is a good general overview of matting and framing http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=eBBJVOyIfbs I also examined the matting in the frames I purchased to see how they were put together. Some of the larger frames I purchased had more elaborated mats, which gave me some ideas. Hope that helps. Mark
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Thank you very much for answering all my questions and for providing the various links. Seems time consuming but if the results are anything like yours certainly worth it. Thanks again. Cheers, Craig |
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Craig,
It's not that time consuming once you've answered a few key questions. 1)Where is the items going to hang and what is the purpose? What I mean is this. Is the item the focal point of the display? If not, are you going for uniformity with your items? Are you trying to conserve space to hang more items? If you aren't doing a custom frame, what frames can you find that will fit the item. Are you framing things together? Also will you be framing originals or not? These and similar questions must be answered regardless of whether you're doing it yourself or going to a frame shop. Once you know these things it just a matter of cutting some mat board, taping the items in, and putting it all in a frame. Have fun. LMK if you have any other questions. Best, Mark
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I had framed the next 4 previously. They were in cheap $5 Walmart wood frames of either a reddish brown or natural color. I took them out of the frames and painted them with black glossy spray paint. I also changed them from single mats to double mats.
Paige ![]() Berra-Williams ![]() Dimaggio ![]() Hubbell ![]() Diamggio Cronin ![]() All Star pic ![]() The next three frames were purchased as is at Ollie's Outlet for $30 each. No matting work needed. The first 2 pics are the original. The third original was a little too small, so I scanned it and made the print a little bigger. ![]() ![]() ![]() Koufax wire photo ![]() 16x20 Ny Rangers Greats. Pic taken at Leetch's number retirement ceremony. ![]() 11x14 Sporting news original cover that was glued to backing board years ago and then signed by Dimaggio and Williams. ![]() The last two are 2 of my favs. These were the flyers from 2 of the shows my father and his partner ran in the mid 80's. I got them signed. Gwynn was one of the nicest human beings I have had the pleasure to meet. He told us at the time that this was his first show appearance! Check out the auto prices! My dad has since passed and these remind me of the great times we had together. Please no calling my mom's phone number. ![]() ![]()
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I was able to get a few things done over the weekend. Matting averaged about 8 bucks each, cut at the frame shop I go to, frames I already had and UV glass was actually Acrylite and average about $10 a piece. Much much cheaper than having it all done professionally and of course, you could save even a few dollars more by cutting the mat yourself. Sorry for the picture quality, but couldn't find my camera and had to use the phone.
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[I]"When you photograph people in colour you photograph their clothes. But when you photograph people in B&W, you photograph their souls." ~Ted Grant Www.weingartensvintage.com https://www.facebook.com/WeingartensVintage http://www.psacard.com/Articles/Arti...ben-weingarten ALWAYS BUYING BABE RUTH RED SOX TYPE 1 PHOTOGRAPHS--->To add to my collection |
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Ben,
Probably the same way I did. I downloaded the picture from the web and printed it out. I am very envious of David's original and it goes so well with the ticket. Of course, I know it's not the same day, but it fits together nicely. Do you any of your pictures displayed? Mike, Very nice frame jobs. Was the price of the mats for archival mat board? If so, $8 is.a steal. What kind of lighting do you have? Best, Mark Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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![]() Yes, that price was for archival mat board. They whip this stuff out pretty quick too, usually while I wait, so what they lose per piece they're making up in the volume I'm bringing in I guess. Plus, I have purchased a couple of frames from them and I make them look busy so customers are coming in to their small shop. For lighting, I'm using track led lighting in the closet area where most of these new ones are going, and then in the rest of the room I have canned lights in the ceiling with a dimmer, but they rarely get used. It's mostly dark in the room until I want to look at stuff and then I open up the blinds just enough to have some defused lighting. I just got back from getting the matting for a signed 8x10 of Amoros making his famous catch in the 55 series. The only problem is that the picture doesn't take up the whole 8x10 so I had them make the inner mat a bit larger and it actually looks pretty good. Once I get a ticket from Game 7 of the series, I'll be re-matting it anyway, but this will do for now and help make that wall look complete. Last edited by mr2686; 05-20-2013 at 07:17 PM. Reason: spelling |
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For anyone interested, the crafts store Michael's accepts the 40-50 percent off coupon on the cutter, coupons are available in their flyer that comes with your weekly newspaper or online email if you sign-up. I purchased the cutter that sells for 129.99 for 65 bucks, a pretty good deal, time to get practicing with my My cutting skills. Thanks to all for the great thread.
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Everyone's attempts inspired me...so I finally got off of my butt and just did some myself...bought a Logan Compact Matte Cutter... some acid free backing boards, frames, mattes etc...and away I went... only messed up one matte cut so far...
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I've played with some 8 by 10 poster board for practice' I'm looking through
all my stuff and trying to match up some items to put together in a multiple cut out. I will post when I finish my first multi cut out piece. Mike |
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David,
I'm glad you correctly identified the original as a "masterpiece". If you hadn't, I would've been forced to come to your home and remove it from your possession, for the crime of not being worthy. As far as your permission, I guess I hadn't thought of that, but I'm glad you approve of the respect I gave it. Like all things Kreindler, It looks better in person. ![]() Mike, I really like the way you did them. I'm not really a big fan of framing the PS cards, but I do think they look nice in the size your using them. I absolutely love the Hodges pic you chose. Very dramatic. Keep up the good work.
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Thanks Mark. I've been trying to do a variety of stuff...signed magazines, photos, photos with autos and PS, but the PS's are mainly for 8x10 in areas where that's all that will fit (also some thin, long frames that only fit certain areas are getting the PS treatment as well.
I can get about 6 more things done tomorrow but that will probably be 5 more magazines and possibly one photo with 2 autographs. I found a great photo of Jimmie Foxx and Connie Mack that I want to have done and it will be a great chance to get two HOF autos up in one spot. |
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No frames yet but just got these matted. Finally getting my Foxx, Mack and Paige up on the walls.
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Wow, Mike.
I didn't see your last post before today. Very nice job with this group. I really like the Foxx-Mack duo. Mark
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All my mats are the highest quality archival cotton rag. I usually spend about $20 per sheet at Dick Blick Art Supply.
I don't use UV glass., because, in my mancave, I installed only LED bulbs in all the fixtures. I also only have one very small window. So, no UV from lights and very little UV from daylight. I would encourage you to give it a shot. It's fun, creative, and can save you a boatload of money. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
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I see you definitely have all your bases covered. My latest acquisition was probably too big to have done myself. 38 x 30 but next time I pick up a collection of like 8 x 10s I just might try it. I am not very "handy" but doesn't seem like it would be too difficult at all.
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Mark, that Wagner looks awesome! Love that the blue inner mat really brings out the blue in the print.
Kevin, I agree with Mark. When it comes to matting, I have 3 words of advice...Archival, Archival, Archival. Acid-free everything should be used, from the matt itself to anything that is touching your memorabilia in any way. LED lighting is also a must as well as UV glass when natural light is present. I sure wish other people would post on this thread. I'd love to see what people have been doing and exchange ideas on what looks good. |
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Thanks Mike. I went with grey and blue for the inner mats to bring out the two dominant colors in the photo. It looks waaaaaaaaaay nicer in person. Maybe I'll let you visit, as long as you promise not to try and steal my Stengel signed Sport Mag.
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Kevin,
The only limiting step to square cut matting is size. The mat cutter I have will cut up to 40in mats. There are one available to the public that will do bigger, but they can cost significantly more. If you will be selling the items, it may be worth putting some of the profits into a bigger cutter. I qualified "square cut" as may of the fancy cuts you see in framing require special tools, like those for round and oval openings. Hope that helps. Mark
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Got this 1874 Letterpress copy of a Cartwright letter back from my framer today...The letter had a weird cut which would make it difficult to matt out in its entirety... My framer had a few creative ideas (photo, rules & signature), which pleased me just the same!
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Great job David. That looks very very cool and I love the idea of adding the rules along with the photo and sig.
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Thanks for reviving this thread!
About 15 years ago I framed a couple of TV western stars and their autographs. FYI they are Gail Davis (Annie Oakley) and Will Hutchins (Sugar Foot). I liked the results so much that last fall I bought several baseball magazine ads, framing them, without autographs. I do have a small page from a sports magazine depicting Chas Gahringer. I picked up his autograph a couple of weeks ago. I can't wait until I mat and frame them. I'll try to remember to post them when I finish.
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I posted this in the pickup section, but juat did a quick frame job on it. Went with an old looking frame and a simple single mat. I am considering changing to a red/blue double mat at some point, but do like this so far.
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The Rangers were referred to as "The Blueshirts" after all, so your choice of just solid blue works perfectly. If you did want to add red, maybe just some thin piping around the image or frame? Great piece! Brent |
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Thank you both.
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Jackie ![]() 1st Expos home opener 1969 ![]() Expos wall ![]() Crossroads 2013 with my tickets ![]() |
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My newest frame job. Thanks to Tony for the Collins that was just too beautiful to pass up
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Thanks Scott.
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Matting or free float? what's your preference? | baseballart | Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used | 15 | 06-12-2010 04:17 PM |
Matting your photos and cards. Some finished product for you to see | Pup6913 | Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions | 11 | 04-08-2010 09:14 AM |
Matting companies? | Archive | Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions | 0 | 03-26-2009 11:58 AM |