1911 sweet caporal t206 red murray portrait, "murr'y" variation! Extremely rare!

[Zone91]

Just purchased this card since I collect player variations of T206 cards figured with only about 5 known with the sweet caporal back I could not go wrong at this price ....the highest a point higher sold for almost 5000$ in 2009.

Mine has a pretty bad looking back but since it is so rare I don't mind it.

[Eric72]

Zone,

I believe this is your third thread of the day.

Did Leon loosen the restriction?

- Eric

[Zone91]

Full description of this variation for the one graded SGC 30 (2):

A majority of the advanced T206 enthusiasts actively pursue 520 of the 524 possible T206 basic set subjects. There are; however, a select group of ultra-obscure variations classified as “above and beyond” player versions, with only a handful of extremists relentless in their quest to obtain these additional T206 rarities. One of those near impossible variations is the Red Murray portrait with his name spelled “MURR’Y” at the lower border. How tough is this card to come by? Consider that SGC’s census report currently identifies a paltry 2 Sweet Caporal “MURR’Y” variations! It just so happens that one of those two specimens is now being offered here in an SGC 30/2 holder, with this example the highest recorded Sweet Caporal “MURR’Y” variation! This variation is so scarce, that PSA does not even distinguish it among the various T206 Red Murray cards categorized in their population report. Furthermore, to the best of our knowledge and research, only a handful of other “MURR’Y variations are known, including singular copies for Lenox, Tolstoi and Piedmont cigarettes. While unreported copies may truly exist or turn up in the future, we can only base this premise on a combination of population report data, our own general knowledge of the card’s specific rarity, and the critical feedback received from advanced T206 collectors regarding this extraordinary anomaly. In fact, BOTH existing Sweet Caporal “MURR’Y” variations recently surfaced this past year. If, indeed, only a handful of copies do exist, the future potential for this incredible underrated prize could escalate to unfathomable proportions similar to the sanctified T206 Joe Doyle variation. While this notion remains to be seen, the remote possibility logically suggests collectors should seize a “MURR’Y” variation before the price tag eventually soars to an unattainable stratospheric level. As an added bonus, this offering aesthetic appeal far exceeds the technical assessment, with a bold midnight blue background providing the perfect backdrop for Murray’s classic portrait image. Rounded borders with even wear and a few unobtrusive horizontal creases running across the lower portion of his New York Giants uniform are the primary blemishes accounting for the grade. Fortunately, eye pleasing color and texture, clean white borders and a reverse side bold red Sweet Caporal advertisement elevate this cards eye appeal beyond the 30/2 grade. In closing, rarely does a card surface with the paucity and investment potential as this truly remarkable offering. Keep in mind that even the rarest and most valuable cards at one point in time were considered relative “novices” regarding their obscurity and value. The splendor of the card circuit is the undeniable potential for any seldom seen card to eventually cultivate into a hobby icon. While no one can possibly attest to which card(s) will fall under this umbrella, the T206 “MURR’Y” variation, via its sparse number of known copies, surely fits into the category as a “budding superstar”. We highly advise that you don’t underestimate the future prosperity this offering provides since it just may be one of the scarcest T206 cards in existence.

Final Bid(Includes Buyers Premium): $4,763.45
Number of Bids: 12

[Zone91]

Eric72

You are correct I will NOT post anything tomorrow. I apologize Leon as mentioned I will not post anything tomorrow.

[KCRfan1]

That's quite a description! Congratulations on your new acquisition

[HRBAKER]

"Above and Beyond" player variations,

WOW, that may be wordiest auction description I have ever read. Mastery of prose, spellbinding. Did it's job though.

Do you think 2-3 people get in a room, have a few pops and try to out-ridiculous each other on these descriptions?

[egbeachley]

You do realize that this is not a variation, correct? It's just a defect that caused part of the "A" to not fully print. It was not a deliberate change by the manufacturer or printer and many feel that there should be no price premium attached (except that even those who think that would pick one up to sell to those who do).

[Zone91]

So a bad purchase you guys are saying? If you search the net the few that sold....sold for big money....way more than I paid for mine.

Link to auction:

http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetai...est-Graded-Cop

[jcmtiger]

As I posted in another zone91 thread, I think we will be seeing all these cards up for sale in the near future.

Joe

[Zone91]

T206 Museum.com description:

http://www.t206museum.com/page/ga_murray.html

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by Zone91

So a bad purchase you guys are saying? If you search the net the few that sold....sold for big money....way more than I paid for mine.

Link to auction:

http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetai...est-Graded-Cop

I assume yours is the one on ebay, that sold at bagger recently.

No. I saw the auction where you bought the card....I think you paid fair market for it based on other sales history. You additionally need to take into account grade of the card. You link to a 2/10 and yours is a 1/10.

I offered you what you paid, to let you out of the card if you want out, but it sounds like you collect these variations.

Let me know.

Kevin

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Zone91

Just purchased this card since I collect player variations of T206 cards

When did you start collecting these?

Not making fun of you, but I have been sometimes smiling, sometimes laughing throughout my read of this thread, but the very first sentence is still the best.

As I got closer to the end I began feeling guilty about how much you've entertained me this morning, because there is such a potential for disaster here. I sincerely hope that you were somehow born with a great feel for vintage card purchasing - I'm sure it's possible, but that's a skill that took most of us a lot longer to gain.

In addition, I am having a vision of you showing up here one morning screaming through your keyboard, begging for answers, as opposed to simply telling us which baffling card you just dropped thousands of $'s on.

Good luck with this buying frenzy - I really mean that.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Zone91

Just purchased this card since I collect player variations of T206 cards figured with only about 5 known with the sweet caporal back I could not go wrong at this price ....the highest a point higher sold for almost 5000$ in 2009.

Mine has a pretty bad looking back but since it is so rare I don't mind it.

You don't have to start a thread every time you make a purchase. As directed before there is a pickup thread you can use.

[Zone91]

bn2cardz

Noted!!!

[Zone91]

By the way I have had multiple offers for cards here in private and refused 99% of them....why because I was honest saying they where not what I was looking for or the price was to high. If I was one to waste peoples time I would have told them all that I wanted their cards and to list them on Ebay and then not pay....but that is NOT the case.

[Zone91]

auggiedoggy

I have to say you are way to involved with your emotions with my purchases and paying methods.....these sales do not concern you in the least bit!!! I simply wanted to talk about cards not all the other crap!!!

I know my own personality and know what I can and can't afford....and always have food on my table and ALL my other monthly bills paid....oh yes and that my pet gets A1 treatment.

I make enough money not to worry about every little thing as you seem to do...you need to try YOGA!!!

[auggiedoggy]

Yes, big mistake on my part. Your threads are never-ending and exhausting and always seem to take the same downward spiral.

So, ... amuse-toi bien et bonne chance!

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Zone91

auggiedoggy
.....these sales do not concern you in the least bit!!! I simply wanted to talk about cards not all the other crap!!!

You brought your purchases to our attention in a DISCUSSION FORUM. What you, Eric and a few others don't realize, is that we're going to react by discussing this in any manner that we feel is appropriate (subject to communication rules placed by Leon).

Deal with it or don't post. Seriously - it's offensive to me when someone tells me that I don't have the right to post my opinion in a discussion forum. Last time I looked - opinions were a major part of discussion forums.

And if you don't like my opinion (above), tell me I'm full of crap - that's your opinion and your right as well. If I wasn't ready for a negative response, I wouldn't have just posted.