The Joe Pelaez T206 Plank

[g_vezina_c55]

The Joe Pelaez 's eddie plank now in a SGC holder and for sale again.
Reslab by SGC as VG (sgc40), previously was in PSA 2 holder.


http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7070&lotNo=80055

Last sale of this card in May 2012, price realized : 41 475

[ullmandds]

Interesting?! Was something done to this Plank to cause it to change grades so dramatically...considering it is PSA cards that are usually overgraded?!

[bn2cardz]

It is interesting that it made the jump as it did.

[drc]

Perhaps the buyer got it regraded as he thought it was undergraded.

[ullmandds]

there is a brown dot(?) to the left of eddie's collar that has disappeared from psa to sgc...but looking at the card I'd say it looks more like a vg than a good to me?!

[g_vezina_c55]

I didn't see the card in real, but according to me it is a VG card.
So the SGC grade is OK for me ...

[jhs5120]

PSA can be tough on stains. In my experience SGC is more lenient on cards FR-VG cards with decent eye appeal.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55

I didn't see the card in real, but according to me it is a VG card.
So the SGC grade is OK for me ...

+1. It does appear in the scans as if it might have been soaked, though. Some cajones if that was the case!

Best regards,

Larry

[cubsfan-budman]

im sure its just the scans, but the staining on the front and back look much lighter in the SGC holder.

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by cubsfan-budman

im sure its just the scans, but the staining on the front and back look much lighter in the SGC holder.

I agree...did he dare soak it???

Peter, I was thinking the same thing...it looks more like a VG than Good...nice card.

[Big Six]

Based purely on the scans, that card looks like it was soaked...much brighter appearance in the SGC slab. Or it's just a better scan...thank goodness I'm more of a T205 guy!

[Iron Horse]

It looks more like a nice 3 then a 2. SGC got it right. I think PSA does grade tougher in some cases.

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by cubsfan-budman

im sure its just the scans, but the staining on the front and back look much lighter in the SGC holder.

Don't have too many PSA graded cards, but is it possible the stains look lighter in the SGC scan because of the darker background of the holder? The blue sure looks richer...

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by drc

Perhaps the buyer got it regraded as he thought it was undergraded.

To me, this card is kind of an enigma. It's a good thing for either PSA or SGC, to have this card in one of their slabs, so...

• Why would PSA undergrade it in the first place? I doubt they did
• What incentive would SGC have to bump it up a notch? It certainly gives them exposure, but there's good and bad to it.
• My guess is that PSA and SGC view the characteristics of this card differently;i.e-SGC and PSA grade differently at each tier.

[ullmandds]

Maybe Dan submitted it to psa...hence the low grade?

[atx840]

Is there a standard deduction due to a severe stain like MK?

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by atx840

Is there a standard deduction due to a severe stain like MK?

Chris,

Is that a stain or severe toning on the back of that T206? It almost looks like another card laid on it for an extended period of time and something caused it to tone.

[T206DK]

Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55

The Joe Pelaez 's eddie plank now in a SGC holder and for sale again.
Reslab by SGC as VG (sgc40), previously was in PSA 2 holder.


http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7070&lotNo=80055

Last sale of this card in May 2012, price realized : 41 475

If this doesn't convince some that grading cards is the biggest fraud to hit collecting....tell me what will please ??

[brass_rat]

Nelson,

A little belated note on this thread, but thank you for pointing this out. I didn't notice this when the auction preview went up, and you're certainly on top of things.

I'm going to the auction preview tomorrow, so I'll report back any insights that I can. I'm not sure if Heritage allows it, but I'm bringing my camera and a macro lens to take some photos of various lots that I'm bidding on. Hopefully the lighting in the room is decent.

Thanks again,
Steve

Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55

The Joe Pelaez 's eddie plank now in a SGC holder and for sale again.
Reslab by SGC as VG (sgc40), previously was in PSA 2 holder.


http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7070&lotNo=80055

Last sale of this card in May 2012, price realized : 41 475

[g_vezina_c55]

Cool thx steeve !!

Keep me posted. If you can do a video or pic share in this thread.

[brass_rat]

I had the opportunity to view the Plank the other day. They allowed me to take photos, but the lighting in the room wasn't great, nor was there a plug for me to use the light I had brought myself. A bummer, but I tried to take some photos anyways.

(Side notes -- I also gave a good look to the Tip Top Wags and the psa 8 Cobb, but didn't take photos. I was also disappointed that the Walter Johnson HOF plaque really isn't a plaque in the frame...it's more like a lithograph of the plaque...)

(If anybody wants the original photos, email me, and I can send them to you.)

I tried to get a close up of there the spots on the left above Plank's shoulder, as well as some corner shots.

Due to the lens I was using, only a narrow band of the picture will be in focus (I couldn't get setup like I wanted to). I used a couple different white balance settings, so please don't rely on the colors in these photos. (I was using a keychain led to provide additional light. I also took some photos under a rather strong handheld blacklight just for fun (which did not show any definitive signs of bleach).

All in, it's hard to know what to say -- it seems like Eddie bathed in water, but the more I looked at the card, I was just sad that I was an underbidder when it sold last year.

I'm going to be in attendance at the auction this evening -- we'll see if it goes for more than the current $60k!

Have a nice day,
Steve

Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55

Cool thx steeve !!

Keep me posted. If you can do a video or pic share in this thread.

[g_vezina_c55]

Thanks nice pic

[g_vezina_c55]

Nice : 65 725

24 250 more than the last May sale !