I need some opinions on these two cards please

[the 'stache]

Hey guys,

I'm considering sending these two cards in to PSA for grading, and would like your opinions on what kind of grade I should expect. Now, when it comes to scanning vintage cards, I'm new at it (my Bowman Chromes show up just fine in one touch cases). I first scanned the Yount raw as color (mult-scan) with 300 dpi. Of course, that came out with a little black line around the card, making judging the edges and corner impossible. How should I be doing it?

First, my 1975 Topps Robin Yount. The card is in really nice shape. The edges appear pretty clean under 10 x magnification (I use both a jeweler's loupe and a magnifying glass). The upper right corner appears like somebody took a thumb tack and ever so slightly pressed it into the cardboard, but there is no hole. Just a slight indentation. The other three corners are pretty clean, as is the surface.



Second is my 1971 Roberto Clemente. I know the '71 set is really condition sensitive because the black chips so easily. The corners are nice, the edges clean, as is the surface. But I am not yet accurate when it comes to gauging just how clean a card is.



I'd be happy to rescan these using another method. I'd like to learn just how to best do it.

Thank you!!

[vintagetoppsguy]

The Yount is kind of iffy. I think it's probably a 6.5 (maybe even a 6) with that touched top right corner and fisheye. I'm not sure it would be worth sending for that grade.

I would definitely send the Clemente. It looks more like a 7.5, possibly an 8. You need to look that Clemente over very well and make sure it hasn't been touched up with a black Sharpee. If it has been touched up, you should see it when you look at the edges (it will have bled through).

[the 'stache]

The upper right corner on the Yount is pretty sharp, actually. There's no bend to it, or fraying. Just that tiny little scratch on the surface alone. Also, what is the fisheye you're referring to, the printing defect in the 'S'? See, I didn't know that would bring the grade down any. Too bad, as the rest of the card is really nice. I'm learning Maybe I'll just keep that, and buy another Yount that's already graded.

I'll look over the Clemente with my black light.

Thank you, David.

I'd still like some other opinions, too.

[the 'stache]

I checked all four edges of the Clemente under black light in a pitch dark room. Straight on, and from an angle, and I show no evidence of a marker whatsoever. The black color is completely uniform around the card.

[the 'stache]

Here are two more scans without the one touch.



And the corner in question

[CW]

First off, nice cards no matter what the grade. The Yount is tough to gauge, as its hard to see the extent of an indentation on a scan.

I'd agree with David that the Clemente is really nice and should grade between NM and NM-MT. That is a cool card to own in any grade. Even though Roberto is just posing for a baseball card photo, he's got a deep, intense stare while looking at the barrel of his bat. I also like how his autograph is written in cursive, but none of the letters connect.

Good luck with those submissions.