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Old 12-30-2012, 10:59 AM
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I've had occasion recently to use Vintagecardprices.com to try and come up with some prices for my pre-war eBay listings. However, I am noticing that so many of the listings I see for pre-war cards have very sparse data, much of it 2 years old for many grades.

It occurs to me that the very active b/s/t board on this site are very likely to have seen many transactions of the cards I am looking up, but of course none of that data is reflected at vintagecardprices.com. This makes me wonder if the vintagecardprices.com model has become irrelevant for pre-ward cards that do not seem to bought and sold that often eBay anymore.

Could it be that the vast majority of pre-war sales are now happening on the b/s/t board of N54? If so, is there any interest in capturing the sales data for posterity? I have always found it frustrating that, when a transaction is complete, it seems that the standard protocol on b/s/t is for the seller to immediately delete the price info for the card. I always thought that it would be very useful and educational to have this data in tact so one could simply search the forums for past sales, and I never understood the rationale for removing the data.

What are folks' thoughts on this issue? What do you rely on for pricing data these days? What are your thoughts about trying to preserve some of the data from the b/s/t boards here? What other marketplaces are becoming more relevant as eBay becomes less relevant?

Miguel
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:47 PM
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The site tracks auctions so unless a card is sold at auction it won't carry the price. I find it very useful most of the time but when you're buying rarely seen cards I don't think a price guide will give you a real sense of what it would sell for anyway.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:49 PM
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I recently had a lot of 11 Delongs i was bidding on that I dropped out of at $440...duplication of what I have, the cards I needed were weaker, etc. The lot went for $650 or so. I had listed my needs on the BST and the successful buyer emailed me minutes after the auction closed offering me the 6 I needed at $575 or so ... and telling me that was at VCP, so I was obviously getting a great deal. He was keeping the stronger condition cards in the lot...he eventually came down a little, but we never got anywhere close. My point is that obviously VCP would not factor in such a sell, which imo is somewhere between wholesale and retail.

I have to admit I price and buy mostly by feel these days. That can be a problem with rarer issues, but you see enough T206s, Goudeys and Delongs to where you get a pretty solid feel.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:57 PM
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VCP certainly has it's limitations...but I like to refer to it to get a history of transactions...however relevant they are...ultimately I also will pay what I feel is appropriate for a card...regardless of previous sales.

I'm not sure it'd be possible to track BST sales as transactions happen so quickly sometimes...and sales prices get removed frequently. Also deals get negotiated via email or the phone...so actual transaction prices aren't known.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:58 PM
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I may be wrong here, but I thought Leon encouraged sellers on the BST to not delete the sale info after a transaction had been made.

Again, I could be wrong, but I believe I heard this before.
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Leon may have encouraged it...but I often remove prices after I sell cards...and I see it often.
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