O/T - Red Sox - Dodgers Trade

[wolf441]

Wow...if the deal goes through, I can't believe that the Dodgers would take on that much $$. A-Gone will be a nice fit in LA, but Crawford will most likely not play for another year and Beckett is a cancer, although he may fare better in a somewhat pitcher friendly park and back in the NL. As a Boston fan, here's hoping that they spend the freed up $$ more wisely this time around....

[Ladder7]

This is why I eat, sleep, drink and dream prewar. The modern sports world bloze.

[barrysloate]

As long as the Red Sox are cleaning house, they may also consider jettisoning Bobby Valentine. The players don't like playing for him.

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

As long as the Red Sox are cleaning house, they may also consider jettisoning Bobby Valentine. The players don't like playing for him.

Agreed, 100%. Too bad they could get the Dodgers to eat Lackey's contract as well!

[bh3443]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

As long as the Red Sox are cleaning house, they may also consider jettisoning Bobby Valentine. The players don't like playing for him.

Very true, Barry my friend!
Actually, I think a lot more need to go so we can rebiuld the team fresh.
Honestly, to me, the owners selling the team would be the best thing to happen. They seem to love their soccer team and not the Red Sox!

Ironically, I'm not a fan of the Red Sox or any particular team as much as I'm just a Baseball fan! I just like good BB!

These trade arguments have been going on since forever! There have been some scary ones!
One day after the Bill Lee trade, I was walking towards Fenway for a game and saw this spray painted on the wall after the Bill Lee fiasco:
WHO THE HELL IS STAN PAPI?

Ah, the Red Sox, you gotta love them!

Bill Hedin

[bosoxfan]

I watch a lot of Sox games and I agree GoneHitLez was coming up short more times then not. I got soooo tired of him hitting a weak ground ball to the right side of the infield in big spots, clogging up the bases, loafing to first, his lack of leadership in the clubhouse, his constant complaining about the schedule, all his excuses why they team wasn't winning, his bitching to management because he didn't like what the manager said or how he said it, rarely driving the ball to the right side. There were stretches when it seemed he'd go weeks without pulling the ball with any authority at all, home or away. Swinging at pitches out of the strike zone, leading the league in GDP, lack of power numbers, his apathitic demeanor, ect. I could go on. Bottom line it wasn't a good fit. Good luck

Where have you gone Anthony Rizzo., and Casey Kelly for that matter

Statistics can lie. Oh how they lie

[mckinneyj]

> Statistics can lie. Oh how they lie

Yep, I'm too lazy to do fetch 'em... but if you like those clutch stats from last year that were referenced in a prior post, you might take a look only at what was done against the rival treams, those that you have to beat, those where there is pressure, like the Rays, Rangers, and Yankees... Gonzalez was totally MIA against them (and a couple of the other better teams). He cleaned up on the weak sisters... he was streaky, but those streaks were always against the lesser teams. Ask any Sox fan to remember a notable at bat by Adrian... I suspect that few can. Tied, down one, down two with two out in the eight or ninth and Gonzalez coming to bat - might as well head to the concession stand or fridge - nothing to see here. Other than Punto he was probably the last guy that I wanted to see up (as a long watching Sox fan).

He should be praised for an excellent first half of last year, his fielding in general, and also for being willing to go out and play right field for a bunch of games while the Sox worked out the Middlebrooks-Youkilis situation. But he was not even close to being an elite performer over his time with the Sox. Better they spend their $$ elsewhere.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by bh3443

Very true, Barry my friend!
Actually, I think a lot more need to go so we can rebiuld the team fresh.
Honestly, to me, the owners selling the team would be the best thing to happen. They seem to love their soccer team and not the Red Sox!

Ironically, I'm not a fan of the Red Sox or any particular team as much as I'm just a Baseball fan! I just like good BB!

These trade arguments have been going on since forever! There have been some scary ones!
One day after the Bill Lee trade, I was walking towards Fenway for a game and saw this spray painted on the wall after the Bill Lee fiasco:
WHO THE HELL IS STAN PAPI?

Ah, the Red Sox, you gotta love them!

Bill Hedin

Did you see what happened to that grafitti later? Someone added a very non PC answer, and for some reason the team left it up on that wall for years. I wanted to take a picture of it, but just didn't get to doing it.

Steve B

[bbcarddan]

Originally Posted by steve B

Did you see what happened to that grafitti later? Someone added a very non PC answer, and for some reason the team left it up on that wall for years. I wanted to take a picture of it, but just didn't get to doing it.

Steve B

I never knew there was an update to that grafitti what did it say? If you can word it without offending anyone, anyone but Stan Papi that is!

[bbcarddan]

Originally Posted by bh3443

Very true, Barry my friend!
Actually, I think a lot more need to go so we can rebiuld the team fresh.
Honestly, to me, the owners selling the team would be the best thing to happen. They seem to love their soccer team and not the Red Sox!

Ironically, I'm not a fan of the Red Sox or any particular team as much as I'm just a Baseball fan! I just like good BB!

These trade arguments have been going on since forever! There have been some scary ones!
One day after the Bill Lee trade, I was walking towards Fenway for a game and saw this spray painted on the wall after the Bill Lee fiasco:
WHO THE HELL IS STAN PAPI?

Ah, the Red Sox, you gotta love them!

Bill Hedin

My brother went to a game right after that trade and said someone spray painted that on the wall too! I`ve always remembered that I guess the new version would be WHO THE HELL IS BRENT LILLIBRIDGE?

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by Ladder7

This is why I eat, sleep, drink and dream prewar. The modern sports world bloze.

Too true Steve,

So in that vein....how could the Red Sox trade Duffy Lewis, Dutch Leonard and Ernie Shore to the Yankees for four nobodies in 1918??!!

[Peter_Spaeth]

A disastrous season, a completely dysfunctional team. Only four of these clowns could even be bothered to show up for Johnny Pesky's funeral, on an off-day.

[chaddurbin]

as constructed it's a franchise-altering trade for the dodgers. clearly a-gon is the only asset, and they have to take on beckett and crawford's massive contracts while giving up 2 of their top prospects de la rosa and webster and a serviceable jerry sands. they are giving up too much for what they're getting back, but i hear cash is coming from boston also.

[howard38]

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[Tobacco&Gum]

No No Nanette

[yanks12025]

I'm surprised mlb approved it.

[Wite3]

As a Dodger fan and a bit of a Red Sox fan, this one is interesting. Dodgers are giving up two decent prospects (Webster is actually very very good) but Sands is actually a bit on the injury prone side but may be good as a fill in.

Dodgers will not be taking on as much of the money as people think. The Red Sox will be sending a boat load of cash along with the other players. Crawford is being paid by an insurance company currently and will not be paid by the Dodgers until he actually plays for them.

This trade will clean up the Sox (if they get rid of Valentine) and make room for some improvement.

The Dodgers will get help at first and a another serviceable(hopefully) starter this year...and Crawford can help out in the outfield next year. Should be interesting how this all works out in the next few years.

Joshua

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by Wite3

As a Dodger fan and a bit of a Red Sox fan, this one is interesting. Dodgers are giving up two decent prospects (Webster is actually very very good) but Sands is actually a bit on the injury prone side but may be good as a fill in.

Dodgers will not be taking on as much of the money as people think. The Red Sox will be sending a boat load of cash along with the other players. Crawford is being paid by an insurance company currently and will not be paid by the Dodgers until he actually plays for them.

This trade will clean up the Sox (if they get rid of Valentine) and make room for some improvement.

The Dodgers will get help at first and a another serviceable(hopefully) starter this year...and Crawford can help out in the outfield next year. Should be interesting how this all works out in the next few years.

Joshua

And you have to like the Dodgers chances in the NL West now with A-Gone replacing Loney and with the Giants losing Melky for the remainder of the season. As a Sox fan, I was hoping they would eat Lackey's contract as well! We'd even through in Dice-K

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by wolf441

And you have to like the Dodgers chances in the NL West now with A-Gone replacing Loney and with the Giants losing Melky for the remainder of the season. As a Sox fan, I was hoping they would eat Lackey's contract as well! We'd even through in Dice-K

No thanks, you can keep Dice-k

[oldjudge]

If this trade goes through the Dodgers will have one impressive batting order: Kemp, Ethier, Ramirez, Gonzalez, Crawford (next year). These guys all have lots of years ahead of them. The Dodgers could have a potent lineup for a long time. If the change of scenery revitalizes Beckett that would be a real benefit. Then they would have three great starting pitchers to complement all that hitting. At least on paper, they would be one of the top few teams in baseball.

[pclpads]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

I'm surprised mlb approved it.

What's even more suprising is that Bud-lite somehow didn't muck this up.