Might be interesting

[JimStinson]

A racket is an illegal business or scheme, usually run as part of organized crime. Engaging in a racket is called racketeering.[1]

Several forms of racket exist. [B]The best-known is the protection racket, in which criminals demand money from businesses in exchange for the service of "protection" against crimes that the racketeers themselves instigate if unpaid (see extortion).

Traditionally, the word racket is used to describe a business (or syndicate) that is based on the example of the protection racket and indicates a belief that it is engaged in the sale of a solution to a problem that the institution itself creates or perpetuates, with the specific intent to engender continual patronage.

[Big Dave]

TPAs?

[travrosty]

not saying they are criminals or engaged in official racketeering, but i wonder why psa feels the need to cast doubt on anyone who doesnt use their services.




Enhance Your Credibility
When it comes to collectibles, a seller's reputation is of paramount importance. Those with the best reputations have their collectibles graded and/or authenticated by PSA. If you are known as a seller who does not, your credibility may suffer. Buyers will ask questions and speculate as to your reasons why.



Seems like to me they are saying that if you use psa, your credibility will be enhanced because you will no longer fit into the category of the type of seller that we just said may suffer credibility problems with the buyers who will ask questions and speculate as to the reasons why you don't use our services.

Doesn't seem to leave much room to suggest there are any sellers other than credible psa sellers, while we all know that there are.


circular logic to me.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by travrosty

not saying they are criminals or engaged in official racketeering, but i wonder why psa feels the need to cast doubt on anyone who doesnt use their services.




Enhance Your Credibility
When it comes to collectibles, a seller's reputation is of paramount importance. Those with the best reputations have their collectibles graded and/or authenticated by PSA. If you are known as a seller who does not, your credibility may suffer. Buyers will ask questions and speculate as to your reasons why

Seems like to me they are saying that if you use psa, your credibility will be enhanced because you will no longer fit into the category of the type of seller that we just said may suffer credibility problems with the buyers who will ask questions and speculate as to the reasons why you don't use our services.


circular logic.

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[travrosty]

notice how this thread doesnt get any play from the people who know its the truth but dont want things to change from the status quo. its a dead thread because they dont want it being discussed. that's the hypocrisy that abounds. they dont want the hobby cleaned up, they want it the same.

I posted psa's policy of saying that sellers would be looked at with a queer eye if they dont have a psa cert and buyers will question them.

the defenders of psa didnt take psa to task for this and say that it is a sickening policy to have because they want everything to stay the same.
non psa sellers should be shot according to them.

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by travrosty

notice how this thread doesnt get any play from the people who know its the truth but dont want things to change from the status quo. its a dead thread because they dont want it being discussed. that's the hypocrisy that abounds. they dont want the hobby cleaned up, they want it the same.

I posted psa's policy of saying that sellers would be looked at with a queer eye if they dont have a psa cert and buyers will question them.

the defenders of psa didnt take psa to task for this and say that it is a sickening policy to have because they want everything to stay the same.
non psa sellers should be shot according to them.

What is "sickening" about this policy? It is good marketing on their part. Doesn't every company try to give you reasons (many of which are plainly FALSE) to use their product? One is either susceptible to that propaganda, or not. You yourself apparently hate that it has been successful, and that many buyers presently do look at sellers with suspicion when their autos don't have TPA certs. Those people are either stupid or lazy or both. If it causes them to look closer at and actually research autos, than great. If it causes them to blindly believe TPAs, than they probably believe everything else they read on the internet and see in commercials.

I'm not bothered either way. Love this hobby.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by travrosty

notice how this thread doesnt get any play from the people who know its the truth but dont want things to change from the status quo. its a dead thread because they dont want it being discussed. that's the hypocrisy that abounds. they dont want the hobby cleaned up, they want it the same.

I posted psa's policy of saying that sellers would be looked at with a queer eye if they dont have a psa cert and buyers will question them.

the defenders of psa didnt take psa to task for this and say that it is a sickening policy to have because they want everything to stay the same.
non psa sellers should be shot according to them.

Travis, I suspect you have spent 1000 times more thinking about this than everyone else in the world combined. It's marketing hype that won't make a whit of difference either way. Should we all light torches, sharpen pitchforks and demand they change some fluff text on some FAQ page no one looks at?

Seriously? My God, get a grip man.

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by travrosty

notice how this thread doesnt get any play from the people who know its the truth but dont want things to change from the status quo. its a dead thread because they dont want it being discussed. that's the hypocrisy that abounds. they dont want the hobby cleaned up, they want it the same.

Originally Posted by travrosty

i posted a link to a story, it's obviously a very powerful story or else people wouldnt be so mad and come after me.

So where is the middle ground where people can disagree with or advise you regarding your methodology, but not your overall quest?

If you make a post and nobody says anything, it's because they don't want it being discussed. If you make a post and somebody questions you about it, it's because they don't want it being discussed. We're all either in on the conspiracy, or we're in on the conspiracy. You don't leave any opening for anyone to give you advice or correction without being lumped in with the worst of the worst in the hobby.

Surely you can see that there are many who, like you, want to see autographs handled in an accurate, ethical and transparent manner, but take issue with some of the haphazard methods that you have been using to pursue that goal?

How would you suggest that someone should disagree with something in one of your posts without being lumped in with the baddies? Or do you truly consider yourself infallible in your posts, the Pope of Authentication as it were?