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View Poll Results: Prewar cards: SGC 10 over Authentic, PSA 1 over PSA Authentic? | |||
Always take a 10 or 1 over an authentic card, | 30 | 33.71% | |
Always take an authentic card over a 10 or 1, | 1 | 1.12% | |
Take a 10 or 1 with eye appeal but back damage or creasing over an authentic card | 26 | 29.21% | |
Take an authentic card which looks like a 40 or 50 but is slightly trimmed over a 10 | 32 | 35.96% | |
Voters: 89. You may not vote on this poll |
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Pre-war cards: SGC 10 vs SGC Authentic or PSA 1 vs. PSA Authentic
I have wondered about this for a while. I know this is tad general as the authetic might be for a slight trim and a 10 (or 1) may have nice eye appeal but back problems, but I wanted to get the board's take.
Ive never posted a poll (help leon!) but I wondered if you would rather: a) Always take a 10 or 1 over an authentic card, b) Always take an authentic over a 10 or 1, c) Take a 10 or 1 with nice eye appeal but back damage or slight creasing over an authentic, or, d) Take an authentic card over a 10 or 1 if the authentic card appears to be a 40 or 50 (4 or 5) but has a slight trim over a 10 (or 1)? |
#2
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Wonka's Franken-plank from a few years back aside, I'm not a fan of AUT cards. I wish not to support the card doctoring business by knowingly purchasing altered cards.
Last edited by 4815162342; 08-14-2012 at 03:09 PM. |
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It depends on the condition of the Authentic one. If it looks like a 4 or 5 but is just trimmed, I would rather have a 10 or 1. If the Authentic card is just really beat up, I would prefer this. Personally, I like beat up cards- they showed that someone loved them in the past and they're cheaper!
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If a card is trimmed, it should always be in an authentic grade only. I perfer psa 1's over sgc 10's and psa 1's and sgc 10's over authentic. Sgc 10's can have alot of paper loss compared to psa 1's which don't allow as much paper loss.
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1) A nice looking 1 is a very collectable card.
2) A 1 with multiple creases is ugly and needs to be upgraded. 3) An AUTH that looks nice because it was trimmed is not a valid example, unless it's an extremely rare and expensive card. That doesn't answer your question exactly but is in the ballpark. Last edited by barrysloate; 08-14-2012 at 03:23 PM. |
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Where's the poll?
i like Barrys synopsis!!!! |
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Much obliged.
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I know they would. I meant that's the way I would collect if I were buying vintage cards. Some guys love beaters and trimmed cards and I didn't want to create the impression that I was an ultra elitist.
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Finally got the poll up
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Not a valid example? Ouch! That's rough, Barry.
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I know this will be the minority, but I'd rather just put a poor card in an authentic holder even if it hasn't been altered. I just feel that Auth sounds better than poor. Just my take. Generally if it's going to grade below vg, I just tell SGC to put the card in an Auth. holder.
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Very slight trim is ok with me also in authentic holder if nice looking. I'm ok with low grade cards also.
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I've never been a fan of trimmed cards. Of course they all look good- they were trimmed to fool people. I know some collectors do like them, and that's fine.
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I'm not a fan of them either, both the one's I know I have
and the one's I don't. The trouble with 10s/1s is they aren't created equal. Rather have a slight trim than a rag.
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I'd choose letter "c" nearly every time. A card with nice eye appeal and a numbered grade. I'd also prefer SGC because it contributes to that eye appeal much better, in my opinion, than PSA.
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Always take a 10 or 1 over the auth card.
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#18
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Can only afford Authentics
I understand the issues with some Authentic cards, that some were trimmed to deceive, but, for some collectors, including myself, the Authentic label means I have a shot at owning a card that would be out of my reach in even Fair condition.
I would not have been able to afford these cards if they were not in Authentic slabs (or formerly in Authentic slabs): Peter Baldes |
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Beautiful cards Peter, I'd take those over a beater any day. |
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There are some authentic cards in my collection, primarily those which are almost unobtainable in any condition because of their scarcity. I also, though, have a few caramel cards which are authentic but gorgeous and it is really tough to detect if they have been trimmed, but are in SGC authentic holders. I prefer them over beaters any day. That said, I would take an SGC 10 or 20 with a beautiful front and small back damage over an authentic card, obviously.
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I also do not mind back damage or writing or authentic for most of my cards. The reason is that I like to display some cards in my house which a lot of friends and family have seen and because...
1. There has not been anybody who has asked me to see the back on any of my cards. 2. The question of "is that card trimmed" has never came up when visitors are here. 3. Most important is that I like the cards and can live with their condition. The Moran has a pinhole and is a recent pick up. Last edited by dog*dirt; 08-15-2012 at 01:09 PM. |
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I couldn't find an answer in the poll that suited me.
About 1969 -- long before TPGers -- I picked up two Topps rookies: Clemente and Koufax. I got them for about a dime apiece -- yes, it's true. (I'm 59 now -- do the math). Both were trimmed, likely cut to fit somehow into someone's album, unless the factory accidentally cut them that way, and ungraded. I didn't even know or care they were/are rookie cards, few people did. And, I didn't even know or care about trimming at the time: I just wanted the cards. I love them, "..and yes, (Barry), they ARE spectacular!" Glossy as well. Edited to add: I know my post is not within the exact point of the poll, but really, there are alternatives. Last edited by Paul S; 08-15-2012 at 01:20 PM. |
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