Goodwin HOF Lenox back Brown T206

[danmckee]

Fetches $7700 as a complete beater 2

I put up 2 comparable or better HOFers on ebay for less money with offer and get no bites at all

What does this tell you?????

[jimross]

Shill bidding??

[bobfreedman]

Originally Posted by jimross

Shill bidding??

Jim, how irresponsible, careless and stupid of you. You don't know what you are talking about and yet you accuse someone that you probably have never done business with or spoken to. How would you like it if someone came into your place of business and kicked the Slurpee machine. Next time, be careful with your words and take the time to think before you act.

[David R]

As someone who has purchased HOFers with Lenox, Drum, Uzit and Broadleaf backs in the last 12 months, I think the Goodwin and OP's eBay prices are both way too high. It surprises me that the Goodwin card went for that much and it doesn't surprise me at all that the OP's eBay listings haven't gotten a sniff.

That being said, I am happy since I've already bought mine.

[sycks22]

Bill is a great guy and he runs honest auctions I feel. I love how if a price is high everyone immediately assumes shill bidding and not the fact that maybe 2 guys really needed the card for a set or another reason. A lot of cards go for more than what they should, but a lot also go for less than they should. Did the auction houses forget to shill those bids?

[forazzurri2axz]

most of the present-day"" tough back whales"" don't buy on ebay,Dan--

[Mikehealer]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Fetches $7700 as a complete beater 2

I put up 2 comparable or better HOFers on ebay for less money with offer and get no bites at all

What does this tell you?????

At least two people wanted the Goodwin Lenox really bad. Also those two(or more) don't look at ebay especially the Buy it Nows.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by danmckee

What does this tell you?????

That you should consign yours to Goodwin?

[FrankWakefield]

Could it tell you that Mr. Goodwin knows collectors, knows what they are seeking, that he travels around the country constantly, and that when he gets an unusual item he knows the handful of folks who'd seriously compete for that item? That Mr. Goodwin has a really strong group of customers / bidders / patrons? I doubt it tells you that, sounds like you've already made up your mind. Unset that mind and send Bill 2 or 3 good items, then see how well he does for you. Then post here on how that went.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

Could it tell you that Mr. Goodwin knows collectors, knows what they are seeking, that he travels around the country constantly, and that when he gets an unusual item he knows the handful of folks who'd seriously compete for that item? That Mr. Goodwin has a really strong group of customers / bidders / patrons? I doubt it tells you that, sounds like you've already made up your mind. Unset that mind and send Bill 2 or 3 good items, then see how well he does for you. Then post here on how that went.

Hi Frank, I have consigned to Bill, I consigned a T206 Murr'y variation and got absolutely killed on it. It sold for $4k when one less than a year prior sold for $12,500 I believe.

This thread did go crazy!

I am not sure where the "BROWN" Lenox mention came from, all of the cards I have mentioned all have the more common black Lenox.

Maybe the $7700 price was so crazy you gents assumed it had to be brown?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by danmckee

I am not sure where the "BROWN" Lenox mention came from, all of the cards I have mentioned all have the more common black Lenox.

How about the title of the thread "Goodwin HOF Lenox back Brown T206"

[danmckee]

Yea not sure where the brown came from, that was not my mistake

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by Leon

How about the title of the thread "Goodwin HOF Lenox back Brown T206"

DAH! Just saw this!

Too funny

Brown was in Mordecai Brown, not brown back, I can't win.

[atx840]

As stated these aren't the elusive brown variation, if so these would have been sold by now.

A low grade Tinker recently went for $3100, the last two low grade Chance yellow portraits went under $2k. The PSA 4 hit $8800.

I would tend to agree these are a bit overpriced for their condition.

[Bridwell]

I, for one, will hesitate to buy a card over $3000 on Ebay. Just not sure whether ebay and paypal will refund me if the card never shows up in the mail. Too much of a hassle buying from somebody I don't know if there's no real guarantees.

[mrvster]

Goodwin is in the top 5 of auction houses that realizes the highest prices...

How many mord. brown t206 black lenox cards exist?????????

what's the population??????????

if it is one of the only examples seen could have gone much higher

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by mrvster

Goodwin is in the top 5 of auction houses that realizes the highest prices...

How many mord. brown t206 black lenox cards exist?????????

what's the population??????????

if it is one of the only examples seen could have gone much higher

Could you please reveal the names of the remaining four auction houses , just in case the Widow Garcia needs some funds , 'way in the future , he said hopefully ? Thanks , MikeGarciaAlive

[CMIZ5290]

Bill goodwin is a class act and straight shooter. If and when i decide to part ways with my prized t206s, he's the one that's going to get them.....

[teetwoohsix]

Originally Posted by mrvster

Goodwin is in the top 5 of auction houses that realizes the highest prices...

How many mord. brown t206 black lenox cards exist?????????

what's the population??????????

if it is one of the only examples seen could have gone much higher

This is a great point that maybe people are overlooking, about how many M.Brown black Lenox T206's are out there. I know you can only use pop reports to attempt to "guage" what's really out there, and we never know what could reside in private collections or * what hasn't been discovered but is still out there(like those E98's in the Black Swamp Find, for example).But it's the combination of the player on the front and the scarcity of the back in general, with an estimate on "population", that actually make this a very rare card (IMO).

With that in mind, I'm actually not too suprised that someone who could afford it would pay that much.

Sincerely, Clayton

[Jlighter]

They wrote Super Rare and We won't see one like this in some time. so it must be worth a ton of money.