Now I know where Coach's Corners crap goes

[Shoeless Moe]

to these local auction houses throughout the US

Look at these - I especially like the Gehrig letter to Ms Lindberg - check out the "M's" in Ms. and Many Thanks. Lou had a funny habit of writing the exact same leter completely different.

http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetai...&lid=12170013#

And anone know where I can get a Mathewson and Ruth auto for under $30 each, I hate to spend $50 bucks on these.

http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetai...&lid=12170017#

http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetai...&lid=12170014#

[David Atkatz]

On April 21, 1934 (the date this postcard was mailed, in Chicago) the Yankees were playing the Red Sox in Boston. Gehrig went 1 for 2, and walked twice.

And, of course, the postcard was originally written (before the back was cleaned, or pasted over) by a Chicago resident, as the address (which is not in "Lou's hand") only says "City," rather than Chicago.

The handwriting waves all over the card, another giveaway.

[RichardSimon]

And I love those "ground beef" shiny stickers on the front of that GPC.
And these guys are using postmarked postcards or creating their own postmarks to try and give their GPC's some credibility,,, that is not a happy development. I saw two of those yesterday, one Gehrig and one Walter Johnson, just signatures not notes, but they had postmarks and were fake.

[steve B]

The postmark on this one looks real. It has all the right traits of a typical machine postmark. The points about the date and the "city' address that David made pretty much rule out the back message of course.

The only thing I find impressive about this one is the quality of the erasing job.

Steve B

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

And I love those "ground beef" shiny stickers on the front of that GPC.
And these guys are using postmarked postcards or creating their own postmarks to try and give their GPC's some credibility,,, that is not a happy development. I saw two of those yesterday, one Gehrig and one Walter Johnson, just signatures not notes, but they had postmarks and were fake.

[David Atkatz]

And, for good measure, the salutation "Ms." ("Mizz") originated in the 1960s.

[Forever Young]

Originally Posted by steve B

The postmark on this one looks real. It has all the right traits of a typical machine postmark. The points about the date and the "city' address that David made pretty much rule out the back message of course.

The only thing I find impressive about this one is the quality of the erasing job.

Steve B

So, what is the opinion of the board on these fake gpcs? Are they faking the postmarks or removing the original ink?

I love me some gpcs and now clearly need to know how to decipher good from bad if at all possible(outside of the signature). How can I determine if a postmark is good? HELP!

[David Atkatz]

The front of this PC is completely genuine.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Forever Young

So, what is the opinion of the board on these fake gpcs? Are they faking the postmarks or removing the original ink?

I would think that it is possible that "they" might be doing both though in this instance it appears that they removed the original writing.
The original forger in the hobby, Ron Dross (don't RIP Ron) had forged signatures on blank unpostmarked GPC's so they could be clearly spotted. But these guys are getting smarter.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

to these local auction houses throughout the US

Look at these - I especially like the Gehrig letter to Ms Lindberg - check out the "M's" in Ms. and Many Thanks. Lou had a funny habit of writing the exact same leter completely different.

http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetai...&lid=12170013#

And anone know where I can get a Mathewson and Ruth auto for under $30 each, I hate to spend $50 bucks on these.

http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetai...&lid=12170017#

http://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetai...&lid=12170014#

Good find Paul,,, I knew this was going on and did mention it in the lengthy CC thread that is running now but this was a good find and shows exactly what I was talking about.