Santo elected to HOF

[Kenny Cole]

According to the article on ESPN, he got 15 out of 16 votes. Amazing how much better he got after he died.

[sayhey24]

Actually what's really amazing is how poorly he was evaluated by HOF voters for so many years.

Greg

[Peter_Spaeth]

Great guy, excellent player, but not a HOFer in my opinion.

[Chris-Counts]

It's great to see Ron Santo in the Hall of Fame, where he unquestionably belongs. There's no doubt he was a Top 10 all-time third baseman — just look at his stats and consider that pitching dominated the era he played in. Now if the Hall of Fame voters can just wrap their minds around Minnie Minoso's statistics and realize he's also a Hall of Famer ...

[alanu]

Glad to see Santo got in. As a fairly newly diagnosed type 1 diabetic, I can only imagine what he went thru as a player with the technology available at the time.

[kmac32]

Awesome. Have met him and his family many times. This is way past due with his career in baseball, announcing and all he did for JDRF. Cubs nation will have a bitter sweet moment as this comes a year too late. Go Cubs go!

I don't mind Santo getting in. There are a ton of others I would put into the hall though. As we have all talked about many time before on the board.

Tony

[Big Ben]

Originally Posted by Chris Counts

It's great to see Ron Santo in the Hall of Fame, where he unquestionably belongs. There's no doubt he was a Top 10 all-time third baseman — just look at his stats and consider that pitching dominated the era he played in. Now if the Hall of Fame voters can just wrap their minds around Minnie Minoso's statistics and realize he's also a Hall of Famer ...

+1 well said!

[bh3443]

Hi Peter and all !
We set up at the first Cooperstown card show in 1980 or 1981, and on the ride back to Boston, my employees and I had started a "traveling game" that we still use today, over 30 years later!
One person says a name of a BB great that's not in the Hall of Fame. Then we (the others) take turns saying should be in or out with our reasons. We agree on a few, agree to dis-agree on others, and then there's the category that cvan only be described as " The viscious Fight", lol!
Some of the players that we argue, scream, taunt each other, and o everything short of a fist fight include:
Pee Wee Reese, Gil Hodges, Jim Rice, Bobby Doerr, Gary Carter, and many more! The 4 of us grew up together and we are BB maniacs! We are like 4 brothers, and our HOF game is awesome!
We were horrified about Jim Rice, and didn't understand Bob Doerr.
One weekend at a Randy Thyberg show in Philly, a customer bought a Schmidt Rookie and a Boone rookie from a 1973 set I had broken up. He was talking about the investment potentioal, and was very convinced on a huge pay day on this deal. He then told us that Bob Boobe was the most under-rated catcher in BB and the HOF are idiots for leaving him out. Well, we did not see it his way and told him he was insane!
The point is who gets in and why is a political thing in some cases.
As for Ron Santo, you probably won't find a bigger Santo fan in Boston than me! I loved the guy as a player and announcer and I prayed for him when he got so sick. I love the guy, and for me, I say sure he should go in. I'm biased on the subject.
Sorry for the long thread, but I'm up late in lots of pain and NET 54's my therapy.
The big news is that a fellow board member is traveling near me and is stopping at my house for a visit tomorrow! I am beyond excited!
Have a great week every one!
Your Fiend,
Bill Hedin

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Great guy, excellent player, but not a HOFer in my opinion.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by bh3443

...He then told us that Bob Boobe was the most under-rated catcher in BB and the HOF are idiots for leaving him out. Well, we did not see it his way and told him he was insane!

lol - Bob Boone is the Phil Niekro/Don Sutton of catchers! Hell, put him in.

[fkw]

he hit over .275, had over 300 HRs and over 2000 hits... plus led the league in WALKS 4 times .....obvious HOFer

NOW you got to let in Garvey, Oliva, Mattingly, Munson, Kluszewski, Colovito, Cash, Minoso, Sain, Hodges, Madlock, Maris, FHoward, Tiant, Staub, RSmith, Kaat, Blue, Foster, Cedeno, Parker, TSimmons, and dozens of other just as good (not great).....

[refz]

Originally Posted by fkw

he hit over .275, had over 300 HRs and over 2000 hits... plus led the league in WALKS 4 times .....obvious HOFer

NOW you got to let in Garvey, Oliva, Mattingly, Munson, Kluszewski, Colovito, Cash, Minoso, Sain, Hodges, Madlock, Maris, FHoward, Tiant, Staub, RSmith, Kaat, Blue, Foster, Cedeno, Parker, TSimmons, and dozens of other just as good (not great).....

sorry i love this this thread kaat should be playing for crappy teams at that giving time period, Maris should be in via mazeroskis' resume. cmon lets feud people

[bcbgcbrcb]

Which Santo items are the BB HOF collectors going after (besides the obvious 1961 Topps RC)?

I jumped the gun a little bit this time and got lucky as Santo was the only one that I pre-bought before this election. I picked up a 1961 Manny's Baseball Land premium on e-bay about a month ago. Not a high dollar item but probably one of Santo's more obscure early pieces.

[Touch'EmAll]

Is it called "the Hall of Fame if you played long enough"?

Or is it called simply "the Hall of Fame"?

Seems like the first and foremost criteria is FAME, no?

I still don't get the longevity deal - either you were great or not - longevity should just add to your prowess.

Poor Roger Maris - multiple MVP award winner - World Series winner - Owner of the most hallowed single season record in all of sports. Maris just oozes FAME - cannot deny.

Bo Jackson - probably the most famous athlete of his day - TV ads galore, posters galore, every kid wanted his cards. Experts call him the greatest athlete of the past 50 years, maybe greatest ever.

Jim Thorpe got into Football Hall with less of a career than Bo.

Somebody please recognize true FAME and let in these 2 guys.

Who was more famous? Ron Santo, or Maris and Bo?

[triwak]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

Which Santo items are the BB HOF collectors going after (besides the obvious 1961 Topps RC)?

I just picked up his 1964 Topps Giants card. Not valuable of course, but I've never had one of those, and I believe that to be Santo's best season.

[howard38]

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