T206 Addie Joss pitching/ PSA 4 with Tolstoi back

[CFSodano]

Hello Guys,

Any one have an idea on what the value might be on this card...It is a beauty. Any help would be greatly appeciated.


Thanks,
Christian

[jimq]

As a reference, a Cycle back in psa 4 sold at heritage a month ago for $836, it was a nice looking psa 4. Some corner wear and a light corner crease. I know a Cycle is different from a Tolstoi but they're in the same neighborhood I think.

Sounds like a nice card!

[CFSodano]

Thank you for the refrence...it was helpful.

Regards,
christian

[shaunsteig]

VCP's last recorded sales of that back and condition date from 2009, and center around $300.

[willworkforT206]

IMHO, I'd say the card is worth around $400, maybe more on a good day or in the right auction.

On the up side, 1) Joss is a HOFer that once threw a Perfect Game and 2) the card has a less common back (Tolstoi should bring a premium of around 1.5x to 2.0x over the same card with a common back). On the downside, Joss Pitching is one of the most common T206s in the set that is not one of six the "Super Prints". It is believed that the card was double printed toward the end of the T206 run due to Joss dying young in 1911.

The Joss Cycle comp is good, but not exactly apples to apples. Joss Pitching is in the 350/460 Series which means the Cycle backs for this card are all Cycle 460s. Tolstoi is definitely on the same level as Cycle 350, but Cycle 460s carry much more of a premium - especially as of late.

Good luck!

Steve

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by willworkforT206

On the downside, Joss Pitching is one of the most common T206s in the set that is not one of six the "Super Prints". It is believed that the card was double printed toward the end of the T206 run due to Joss dying young in 1911.

Hi Steve - I don't know the source of the above quoted information but I don't believe it to be accurate. I like the pose no matter what Rob may say about it but nothing I've seen would lead me to believe it was double printed or received and special attention due to his death.

[shaunsteig]

Originally Posted by willworkforT206

2) the card has a less common back (Tolstoi should bring a premium of around 1.5x to 2.0x over the same card with a common back).

My understanding is that the rule of thumb re back multipliers is that they only apply for common cards and do not apply to HOFers. My experience has been that there's actually a little extra bump for the HOFers for the less-common backs (maybe 10%) but not nearly as much as the "listed" back multiplier would give you. I'm referring to the less-common backs such as PB, OM, Sov, etc (when you get to the rarer backs such as CB, P42, C460, uzit, etc then i find all bets are off). Any thoughts?