Do EXMT cards ever have creases?

[tbob]

I was just wondering. I bought a group of cards off the internet and was ok with the fact 5 of the 6 described as exmt were vgex to ex because they were tough cards but the vg one was hammered, I'd say P-F. I sent that one back and the guy politely sent another to me that was close to vg. Bolstered by this fact, I ordered 2 more EXMT cards. One has a small wrinkle/crease and the other has multiple creases. Have I suddenly forgotten the grading system? I think vgex cards should not have creases (maybe a lite wrinkle) but certainly not EXMT ones. The seller is an ebay regular vintagefootballcardguy who has an ebay store and a lot of experience. Have I wandered back in to the pre-SGC world where grading is so subjective that you just throw out the grading guides? I am tempted to send at least the one back but it's getting to be a real pain. The cards were $16 each. What's the consensus? Eat them and chalk up another lesson learned or return one/both? Just wondering.....

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by tbob

I was just wondering. I bought a group of cards off the internet and was ok with the fact 5 of the 6 described as exmt were vgex to ex because they were tough cards but the vg one was hammered, I'd say P-F. I sent that one back and the guy politely sent another to me that was close to vg. Bolstered by this fact, I ordered 2 more EXMT cards. One has a small wrinkle/crease and the other has multiple creases. Have I suddenly forgotten the grading system? I think vgex cards should not have creases (maybe a lite wrinkle) but certainly not EXMT ones. The seller is an ebay regular vintagefootballcardguy who has an ebay store and a lot of experience. Have I wandered back in to the pre-SGC world where grading is so subjective that you just throw out the grading guides? I am tempted to send at least the one back but it's getting to be a real pain. The cards were $16 each. What's the consensus? Eat them and chalk up another lesson learned or return one/both? Just wondering.....

As to what to do with the cards, I have no opinion. But I don't see how an excellent-mint card can have a crease.

[botn]

We need a poll for this one. No question.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by Rob D.

As to what to do with the cards, I have no opinion. But I don't see how an excellent-mint card can have a crease.

Did Bruce say it was OK for you to talk?

[Peter_Spaeth]

I would eat them (preferably with some spice to make them more palatable).

[Rob D.]

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[HRBAKER]

I would say no, an EX-MT card cannot have a crease, raw or graded.

[Section103]

....they're all pretty much the same

6 Surface: Noticeable print spots. Minor color or focus imperfections. Minor border discoloration and color or focus imperfections. Minor wax stains or extremely subtle ink marks. Relatively solid gloss with minor scratches, but devoid of scuffing. Noticeable metallic print lines.
4 Surface: Heavy print spots. Hairline creases. Moderate color or focus imperfections. Moderate border discoloration. Moderate wax stains. Very light ink mark or tape stain. A good deal of gloss lost from surface. Very minor scuffing or an extremely subtle tear in the form of a touch of broken surface paper.

Hairline creases start at 4. With that said, Im reminded of the fact that lots of sellers on eBay use their own grading standards (same numbers, same abbreviations) which differ greatly from the standards.

[Browncow75]

Depends on if PSA is grading them, as evident by some of the "iffy" grading standards theyve shown of late. Ive seen a PSA 6 1940 PB Joe Jax this weekend at a card show that would barely get a 3 at SGC normally. Hard to say tho.

Brandon