PSA Hates Me....and I'm not too fond in return

JP · #1 05-27-2010, 03:03 AM

My entire grading history with PSA has been pathetic. On many, many occasions, I have submitted crossovers from SGC and BVG and received significantly lower grades. I don't think I've ever had a bump, and RARELY do I get the equal grade....RARELY. On many, many occasions, I have submitted raw cards, received horrific grades, and then cracked and resubmitted the cards through dealer submissions of friends of mine. On average I'd say the grades come back 1 to 1.5 levels higher than my own submission. I know it is supposed to be anonymous, but I'm pretty sure they smell out my submissions in particular. Here's just the latest example. Feel free to share your horror stories as well.

Below we have two different O'learys submitted at the same time. The kicker -- they got the same numerical grade! Any guesses as to what that would be???

martin neal · #2 05-27-2010, 05:12 AM

Sgc 20 ?

rdixon1208 · #3 05-27-2010, 06:08 AM

I don't want to sound condesending, but why do you keep submitting to them? If you don't like the service thay provide and you feel like they have something against you, just take your business elsewhere.

Matt · #4 05-27-2010, 06:12 AM

JP - the top one obviously has better eye appeal, but it has multiple major creases in it that would preclude it from grading a 2. At best, you could claim it should be a 1.5 and the other is a 1, so you're complaining that they gave you a 1 instead of a 1.5?

autograf · #5 05-27-2010, 06:31 AM

Also goes to the question.....why would you be grading low grade card like that. You're probably leaving money on the table. I can't see how'd youd recoup your grading fees on a card like the one on the bottom. The eye appeal of the top card looks like a 3 but I'm sure it was no where close to that.

clamendo · #6 05-27-2010, 06:44 AM

Obviously, the top card is nicer than the bottom. This is something I have spoke to both grading companies about. If a card if lower grade (VG and below) a small pencil mark, small amt of paper loss, doesn't mean as much as as a defect at the higher levels. So, why do they immediately crucify these cards and call them poor. Years ago a poor card was one that had a large piece out of it or went through the washing machine. Look at the old price guides. Grading companies have redifined what poor is. Why should a T3/T9 that perfect with a pin hole in the top be called "poor", but one with rounded corners and a crease right through the middle be called Good. Makes no sense to me. Up until recently PSA didn't even have a grade between Poor and Good. And SGC still doesn't have middle grades at the low end. Their needs to be more work on the low end of the grading scale - especially if you collect rare cards.

GrayGhost · #7 05-27-2010, 07:06 AM

I must really be blind. I see a couple creases on the top card, but why would it get the same grade as that second one, which has been played with a lot? Someone please help.

Bridwell · #8 05-27-2010, 07:11 AM

Hi JP,
The Old Mill should get a PSA 1.5 and the Sweet Cap a PSA 1 based on my experience with PSA. The Old Mill has multiple light wrinkles so might even get a PSA 1 if the grader is strict.

Ron

lharri3600 · #9 05-27-2010, 07:23 AM

i know there are some here with more expertise. should the cards (below) be a psa 4 and 5??

ChiefBenderForever · #10 05-27-2010, 08:31 AM

If the top one isn't a 3 many 4's I have seen need to be downgraded. Also really tough to tell any difference between 5,6, or 7 they all look the same. It really makes no sense, your best judgment is to buy what looks great to you and let your own eyes be the judge since each card and grade varies so much.