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Old 05-18-2010, 08:40 PM
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Default Set Registry Should be for Card Collectors

I have sets on both set registries SGC and PSA. I know its a marketing vehicle to get cards graded, but its also an attempt to recognize people who have assemble some very nice sets or collections. Suggestion #1- I don't think that people should be recognized at least right away for simply buying someone else's cards and re-registering them in their name. There should have to add to it "substantively" some percentage or there should be a waiting period (1-2 years?). Or all your effectively doing is recognizing people who have collected money and not cards. Suggestion#2 - Auction houses should not be allowed to register sets. Or eventually they will have the best sets in all categories, as peoiple sell their collections. Like to know every ones thoughts?
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Old 05-18-2010, 08:50 PM
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I respectfully disagree. Who is anyone to say that just because I buy someone's set, that I am not as much a collector as the next guy? Maybe I saved up money and sold many cards to be able to make such an acquisition.

As far as auction houses, I don't see anything wrong because eventually the cards will be back in a personal collection.

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Rob I agree with you.

Highest Rated = Highest Rated whether accumulated one card at a time or an entire set in one purchase.

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Old 05-18-2010, 09:39 PM
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Isn't it just "Free" advertising for the auction house.
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Old 05-18-2010, 09:45 PM
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Carl, I agree that the collector who spends blood, sweat and tears assembling a set should be recognized over the guy who spends money only. But we know it dosen't always work that way. You have much knowledge in this hobby. Be careful who you impart that knowledge to because you could be working against yourself. Education is not free, it comes with a tuition cost!!!
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You have much knowledge in this hobby. Be careful who you impart that knowledge to because you could be working against yourself. Education is not free, it comes with a tuition cost!!!
Jim,

This is the complete antithesis of what this Board stands for. It is only useful because the people who participate here don't treat information as their own personal treasure to be guarded and hidden away. I find this sort of attitude to be disappointing, but I suppose it is common among lurkers - take what you can, but don't share...

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Old 05-18-2010, 10:05 PM
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One card at a time or one hundred at a time it's the same, "collector A" has the highest graded set. I'm wary of the you're not a real collector bc you don't collect like I do mindset. Find achievement in your own satisfaction and not a "marketing vehicle."
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One card at a time or one hundred at a time it's the same, "collector A" has the highest graded set. I'm wary of the you're not a real collector bc you don't collect like I do mindset. Find achievement in your own satisfaction and not a "marketing vehicle."
Jeff well said, everyone enjoys the hobby in his or her own way. You may not want to go bowling with everyone and that's fine. But when the dust settles if you buy cards and keep most of them then you're card collector regardless of your methods.

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You guys are talking about slab collectors, not card collectors.
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Old 05-18-2010, 10:21 PM
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Blair, Relax. I don't think careful=hidden away.
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Blair, Relax. I don't think careful=hidden away.
Right - so a caution to another poster on a public internet bulletin boad to be careful about imparting knowledge to others is not a suggestion not to post??? I thought it was pretty clear...

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One thing I always wondered about the registry stuff: when a card is sold or a set is sold, how do the registry people verify it? Do the auction houses that register a set change the registry for the buyer?
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One thing I always wondered about the registry stuff: when a card is sold or a set is sold, how do the registry people verify it? Do the auction houses that register a set change the registry for the buyer?
If the previous owner of a registered card or set does not remove them from there set registries, PSA will remove it. PSA gives the previous owner 3 days to remove the cards. If the cards are not removed after 3 days, the new owner must provide front and back scans of his cards and PSA will then remove them. This happened with one of my '63-'64 Parkies 2 weeks ago when the seller of my card failed to remove it from his registry.
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Right - so a caution to another poster on a public internet bulletin boad to be careful about imparting knowledge to others is not a suggestion not to post??? I thought it was pretty clear...

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I have to mostly agree with ya' Blair. In the last few days we have seen one of the reasons I am disappointed with the way the board goes. Folks use it for ONLY their personal vendetta vehicle instead of helping with knowledge. I guess most of us regular posters can keep being the good guys and the ones that ONLY use it for their personal situation, or to gripe or whatever, can continue to be stingy. Unfortunately I can think of at least 3-5 good hobby friends that are that way. Oh well.....I guess if that makes them happy (to not share) then who are we to spoil their happiness.

btw, to the original question- I do not think Auction Houses should be able to register sets on registries. Just my opinion. It should be for collectors. An inanimate object (business) can't collect.
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Adam, when a registry card/set is sold it will stay in the registry until the new owner tries to enter the card and then they will get a notice that the card is in another set and do you wish to send them an email to remove it. PSA/SGC gives them a couple days and then they will remove it for you, a few times they have asked for front and back scans to make sure you own the card.

The down side of this is when a graded card/set is sold to someone who is not a registry collector the cards can stay in the old set, I follow one exhibit set that a bunch have been sold and yet the set still shows them in it 1 year after they were sold.
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Adam, when a registry card/set is sold it will stay in the registry until the new owner tries to enter the card and then they will get a notice that the card is in another set and do you wish to send them an email to remove it. PSA/SGC gives them a couple days and then they will remove it for you, a few times they have asked for front and back scans to make sure you own the card.

The down side of this is when a graded card/set is sold to someone who is not a registry collector the cards can stay in the old set, I follow one exhibit set that a bunch have been sold and yet the set still shows them in it 1 year after they were sold.
Scott, we must have been thinking and typing at the same time!
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